• James Leonard Park

    Yes, I believe it will still be against the law of California to ‘assisting suicide’ after this right-to-die law comes into effect. Here are four basic differences between irrational suicide and voluntary death: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parkx032/CY-IS-VD.html

  • Steve W.

    It’s impossible to have an honest debate when one side turns the plain meaning of words inside out. With all due respect to Dr. Olvera, taking your own life is the definition of suicide, regardless of whether a person does it with or without medical assistance. The only difference here is this law corrupts the medical profession by turning physicians into agents of death.

  • Willam Nat

    Killing yourself is not “suicide”? Ha! I think I’ll redefine stealing so that I can go out and take other people’s money. Maybe I’ll redefine “illness” to “health” and then get well! No, when you redefine words to suit your cause it’s called LYING.

  • Bradley Williams

    Note these loopholes and more work with each other to eviscerate
    intended safeguards.

    By all these OR model laws all family members are not
    required to be contacted, hold that thought.
    A single predatory heir is allowed to steer the sign up and then execute
    the lethal process without a witness.

    A witness is not required to confirm that the dose was so
    called “self administered” (you remember this was one of their lead selling

    Even as the law provides immunity for all involved and
    demands the falsification of the death certificate (impossible to track trends
    for good public policy) it actually prohibits a public inquiry of any kind
    (remember the family members who were not contacted).

    These loopholes and more are in the OR, WA, and CA’s laws and expand the
    scope of exploitation by predators and predatory corporations for windfall
    profits. However, it serves the
    health insurance corporations very well.

  • Jacki Livingston

    My deepest sympathies and prayers go out to you, on the loss of your daughter.

  • LFOldTimer

    Finally. Now in the State of California I have the same rights as my dog. When’s it’s time to bid farewell I won’t have to lay in a hospice bed on a morphine high with a diaper full hoping that I won’t wake up the next morning. It’s about time. I bet the medical supply and pharma industries fought this bill tooth and nail. My pain is their pleasure. ha.

    • Willam Nat

      Congrats old-timer, you have just lowered your worth to the level of your dog. When you’re in a nursing home and a Dr. Kevorkian want-a-be whispers in your ear “It’s your duty to die” what will you say? The insurance companies will love it when you say “yes” because a $200 poison pill is a heck of a lot cheaper than a hundred thousand in nursing home care.

      • LFOldTimer

        I’ve always been a big believer that we should have full ownership over our own bodies, William. You seem to hold the belief that government has the right to tell us when to die. So you and I are world’s apart and would never come to a compromise. If you want to finance new cars for the pharma people with pills, drips and injections while on your death bed – be my guest. I’d rather that my loved ones get whatever belongings that I leave behind.

        • Willam Nat

          I wonder how many pro-suicide people like you have this “human life is no more valuable than animal life” mentality. It certainly would go a long way in explaining the little value they place on the lives of the elderly poor and people with disabilities.

          • LFOldTimer

            William, if you were a dog you’d have a competely different perspective. That’s the problem with us humans. We have high opinions of ourselves. You think you’re better than a dog. During segregation many thought their skin color made them superior to others. Liberals think they’re better people than conservatives. Skinny people look down on fat people. And on and on and on. No wonder this world is so screwed up. You have no business or right telling somebody else what to do with his or her body unless that person is simultaneously hurting another person or an animal. Stay out of other people’s personal lives. The elderly poor or disabled have nothing to do with this conversation. So stay on topic.

      • Jacki Livingston

        I find it laughable that you are talking about people on life support and disabled elderly in nursing homes. If you knew the conditions in most of the nursing homes in this County, and how the County conspires in organized crime stealing from these patients, you would be amazed.

        But, I do disagree with you. Any person who thoughtfully and carefully makes the choice not to suffer agony, when there is no hope, is not committing suicide. They are taking the reins and controlling their own destiny. They are refusing to suffer for other peoples’ hang ups. The right to die with dignity should be a free will choice. I do agree with you about the insurance companies, it is a slippery slope. I wonder how we can find the compromise that allows a competent adult to check out peacefully, without outside interests abusing it for their own greed.