• Jacki Livingston

    Wow. Just…wow. The County finally convicts one of the elected/appointed elite for terrible, horrible crimes against the citizens…

    or, not…

    Irony demands:
    1. He is probably the only black male that they have seen in the halls of holy thievery since they gave Mikey Riley his sweet retirement after he helped them with the embezzlement from MediCal and nursing home patients.
    2. Unlike Nguyen, Spitzer, Moorlach, Mauk, Nelson, Riley, Ryan, et al, who have been committing serious crimes against the people, TRack goes after someone for filling out forms wrong.
    3. Brock Zimmon, who I thought was actually an ethical attorney, is now Tony’s hatchet man. How sweet that he can go after a guy for filling the forms out wrong, but do nothing about the real crimes brought to him. Nice one, there, Brock. Thanks for showing that you are just another lap dog.

    I guess we can all sleep easier at night, knowing that if we have a stroke and end up in a nursing home, we will lose everything and they won’t be able to bury us. But, by Gosh and Golly, Brock will make sure that no one fills out a form wrong. I feel so much better, now, don’t y’all?

  • LFOldTimer

    Well, Webster. In your spare time if you ever handcuff a wild-eyed proselytizer in a public place there seems to be precedent now in County ops and you may have a stronger case. Ah, but what’s the use? I certainly wouldn’t recommend it. In fact, I would advise strongly against it. Just let him proselytize. Live and let live. Why float another canary in the mineshaft? The second one might not survive. Go enjoy the grandkids. Listen to the birds sing in the park. And make sure the bank verifies those bi-weekly pension check auto deposits.

  • LFOldTimer

    Well, they gotcha Webster. You were the one fish in dozens that wasn’t allowed to shake the hook. This should be a lesson to anyone who opts to get involved in OC exec politics: Always swim within the school. The second you veer away you become a target. The backbone of civilization and one of the most sacred traditions of American culture is (was) ‘equality under the law’. That’s what made America great. That’s what made us the beacon of freedom. But we can no longer assume that it remains sancrosanct in practice. It’s a very different nation than when I was born. It’s undergone revolutionary changes, particularly in the last 25 years that are not apparent to the naked eye. And not good changes either. You’ve been in OC government for a long, long time, Webster. You should write a book. I bet it would prove very therapeutic. Good luck. 🙂

    • Kathleen Tahilramani

      Nicely said. We could all name dozens of recent high profile county of orange scandal’s that were pushed under the radar, ignored etc. Pull a gun on a homeless man if your the Chair of the BOS – IT”S OK. Screw up paperwork – if your the Black Democratic Assessor – go to jail. It’s all so stupid and obvious. Webster was used as an example for anyone who even dares to contemplate drawing outside the lines. Do it and get destroyed.

      • Shannon Bales

        BS – violate the rules go to jail.

        • Kathleen Tahilramani

          Well, I have 31 years under my belt as a County of Orange HR Manager and Assistant Director and I have seen it all. The unfortunate fact is this – the protected and connected get away with the most egregious behavior and conduct. When the powerful want to get rid of someone or make an example of someone that person is going to be destroyed, and even the most petty misstep will be all they need to exploit. So, your theory that if one violates the rules they go to jail is laughable and years of evidence proves this is just not the case. By the way, if the employees of the Assessor’s office saw such deep corruption and illegal conduct – where is the proof? If this is the most corrupt thing they could stir up then all I can say is that this is this is a whole lot of nada. Keep reading the Voice of OC and you will find that even the most overt and obvious fraud, conflict of interest and unethical behavior and conduct gets a pass about 99% of the time. And, that is no BS.

          • Shannon Bales

            Where is the proof? He was convicted of a crime. You keep comparing other peoples unethical conduct and seem to want a free pass for your candidate describing it as “no big deal”. I’m sure the other candidates who did things the right way, and spent thousands of dollars honestly would feel different. Moreover, if this attitude is symbolic of how most government workers feel (the corruption was “no big deal”) then we are truly on a slippery slope of anarchy and self justification for illegal deeds.

          • Jacki Livingston

            Clearly you don’t get what Kathleen is saying. Good employees who are ethical and obey the law do not last in the OC. I spent fourteen years at SSA. I watched in horror as evidence piled up showing that high level management and elected officials were using the billion dollar CalWin system and MediCal to embezzle money from the state and feds, then launder it into their own campaign accounts. The nursing homes got greedy, and began to steal from clients who were comatose and paralyzed. One that I found stole a quarter of a million dollars, just from the ten clients I found. The nursing home was sued and got a sweet settlement, because the people they were stealing from were unable to speak, especially after their gross negligence led to their deaths from being dropped on their heads. The attorney for the nursing home is a major contributor to the campaigns of all of the BoS folks. They laundered the money and spread it around. I was assaulted, threatened, written up on false charges and had my entire career destroyed. Then, to add insult to injury, they illegally used Spitzer’s wife and close friend/client to force through an agreement on my WC case, and strong arm my giving up, and then did not carry through with their legally binding agreements. So, hon, while you are outraged about someone not filling out forms right, Kathleen, Debby and others are outraged by the real crimes that Brock Zimmon and TRack could care less about. We, the employees who know how this county operates, call BS on the DA’s office, for their politicizing non-issues, while they pocket funds and bribes, so the real criminals like Spizer walk free. How about a little outrage for that?

        • Kathleen Tahilramani

          Maybe if you violate the law as a elected official you might go to jail -not likely if you are a band of brothers member. But violate rules oh my my my not much of a chance. The rules are there to be violated. These people have no respect for mere rules.

          • Shannon Bales

            That’s right, Webster Guillory has no respect for the rules. That is why he was convicted and will probably have a slap on the wrist. That will make you happy right? No punishment.

          • Kathleen Tahilramani

            I bet we agree with one another more than you might suspect. First Webster is not my candidate. Second, I do not condone anyone breaking rules or the law. I respect the jury system and will respect whatever consequences they decide is appropriate for Mr. Guillory. What bothers me is how there is a pick and choose process that is vengeful to selectively prosecute for misdeeds. There are many recent examples all over County government of elected and appointed officials getting away with unethical and potentially illegal actions and this is swept under the rug = no investigation means there is no opportunity to determine the degree of improper conduct. They get a pass. I’m not trying to say that Mr. Guillory should get a pass or even a slap on the wrist. But I am saying that others have done much more in the way of rule breaking and illegal conduct only to be protected. Let’s be fair and treat everyone the same way and not use the judicial system to selectively punish political enemies.

      • LFOldTimer

        I bet there’s a book deal out there just waiting to happen sparked by this episode. Apparently Webster’s retired. Trips to Laughlin and spending time w/the grandkids are lovely ways to fill the twilight years. But that’s also the time when those who possess years of wisdom generally share it with others. The young must learn from the old. We’ll see.

        • Kathleen Tahilramani

          Mr. Guillory has seen it all – I have always felt that he kept his own counsel – not a gossip. Should he decide to off load his vast storehouse of county nonsense there would be some very nervous people.

  • Shannon Bales

    This has nothing to do with Papi Pulido – this has everything to do with concerned workers who were tired of the corruption in the office.

    • Kathleen Tahilramani

      H mmmm count me in as doubtful.😒

      • Shannon Bales

        The little guys won this one.

        • Kathleen Tahilramani

          Nah, the entire county is corrupt. They nailed a little democratic fish while they go onward with huge frauds,scandals you name it. Don’t be fooled.

          • Shannon Bales

            So I guess just a little illegal behavior is OK with you. I’m a taxpayer – kick them all out.

          • octaxpayer

            Agree kick them all out. start with the BOS. Then dig into the CEO/CIO office, PMO office, etc.

          • Jacki Livingston

            SSA, Human Resources, Public Guardian, IT…

          • Kathleen Tahilramani

            Well I am a taxpayer as well. This was a petty case. Not the crime of the century.

        • Jacki Livingston

          The little guys never got into the ring. Trust me.

      • Shannon Bales

        Its not a big conspiracy – OC Assessors office is corrupt and it caught up to him. You can wave your hands around and proclaim the rules don’t apply to you but at the end of the day they do.

        • Kathleen Tahilramani

          I know for a fact for most of them it never catches up as they protect one another. There is no end of the day for most county elected and appointed officials. This is just a joke. Over a little piece of paper just a joke. Watch the BOS meetings to see the real flush of money and twisting of all rules.

  • Paul Lucas

    This is plain old payback from Papi Pulido on webster for his audacity to expose pulidos corruption over the property swap.

    • RyanCantor

      Took what looks like a quarter million dollar bribe? No jail for you.

      Signed the wrong piece of paper? YOU GO TO JAIL.

      (not dismissing the significance of this particular paper, but in comparison . . . come on . . .)

      • Paul Lucas

        aint that somethin?

      • Shannon Bales

        They got Al Capone on tax evasion. The corruption caught up with him.

        • Debby Bodkin

          Who will investigate Rackauckas?

      • Debby Bodkin

        Beat a homeless man, with a video of the beating, No jail time for you….. only in the OC……

        An OC lawyer alters medical records of one of his clients…. Gets 90 Days? Only in the OC

        Consequences of violating the law in the OC all depends on who you are (Repub or Demo) and who you know. Only in the OC

        • Jacki Livingston

          …steal a quarter of a million dollars from comatose and paralyzed patients, drop them on their heads on concrete floors, rig the billing system to embezzle millions from MediCal (IE: the taxpayers) and threaten, assault and abuse employees who refuse to cover it up? No jail for you!

          Falsify records, get your wife to appoint your dear friend who is indebted to you as judge on a case, and falsely make promises on a settlement you do not uphold? No jail for you!

          Fill out a form wrong? And be a black man? You’re going away for life, pal!

          Un-effing believable.