Irvine Councilwoman Won’t Respond to Rumors About Consulting Contract

Irvine City Councilwoman Christina Shea at Irvine City Hall. (Photograph by: Paul Rosales)

Irvine City Councilwoman Christina Shea at Irvine City Hall. (Photograph by: Paul Rosales)

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Irvine Councilwoman Christina Shea is rumored to have lost her consulting gig with KIA Motors America, Inc. after the state launched an investigation into her work – but she refuses to comment on the situation.

Several sources with knowledge of the situation say Shea’s consulting relationship with KIA ended after the state Fair Political Practices Commission (FPPC) began investigating her contacts with city staff on behalf of the Irvine-based carmaker. Shea refused to confirm or deny the rumor.

“I don’t think it’s anything of value” to comment, Shea told a Voice of OC reporter.

The agency launched its investigation in response to a Voice of OC article published last December revealing Shea’s emails and texts to staffers in the planning department with special requests for KIA, including the approval of construction plans and permits. She specifically asked for KIA’s requests to be expedited “as soon as possible.”

Under the state Political Reform Act, it’s illegal for an elected official to use his or her position to influence governmental decisions that could benefit sources of income. The FPPC investigation would focus on “use of your position to influence city staff on behalf of KIA Motors, a source of income to you, in violation” of the law, a Jan. 12 FPPC letter to Shea states.

Shea for years has disclosed KIA as a source of income, but the nature of her work has always been something of a mystery. On her personal website she stated she does “government relations” work for the company; and she only reluctantly told a reporter that her work included “community relations,” assisting with donations to public agencies, and unspecified “immigration issues.”

Bob Stern, co-author of the 1974 Political Reform Act, which governs conflicts of interest, said previously that Shea might be in violation of the law. However, whether the FPPC would enforce the violations depends on the answers to certain questions.

“How much is she being paid, and how much is the decision worth?” Stern had said.

Shea previously denied being paid to influence Irvine officials, arguing that she was merely contacting staffers for information about KIA’s requests, a service she said she would perform for any business in town that asks for her help.

“I do this for any business that contacts me, any citizen that contacts me,” Shea had said.

A KIA Motors representative media representative did not return a phone call seeking comment.

Please contact Adam Elmahrek directly at aelmahrek@voiceofoc.org and follow him on Twitter: @adamelmahrek

  • Christina Shea

    Well Mr Chemeleski you are incorrect. Jeff may not have filed the complaint because that was you with reference to Adam E in the complaint writing the articles. I read the complaint, which by the way was written very sloppily. Jeff has been behind the scenes working to get my emails out and communicating with you to collaborate….everyone knows what’s up with you guys. I personally was told this by a close supporter of yours, besides so many others. Hiding under bushes doesn’t mean we can’t see your backs. It’s a trinity effort as I explained prior.

    My granddaughter is no business of yours, Dan. Period. She has every right to come to City Hall. Many scout organizations come to City Hall and stay for hours. You will stoop as low as it takes to try to create some ridiculous point. She is in fourth grade going into fifth in August. She doesn’t need to be baby sat. She comes to Council on nights the agenda is short, she does her homework and watches the proceedings, which is a very good civics lesson for her. We enjoy discussing the topics and speakers after the meeting. So what’s your point? What ridiculous point are you spending your time making now ? I hope you aren’t in City Hall with your camera friends taking her picture while she watches the proceedings like you do with me….as you will have a big problem with if that is going on.
    Tell Jeff to stop hiding behind your apron. Everyone knows how close you are, it isn’t a secret…
    So funny you think people don’t see what’s up! We do….
    Have a nice day…

  • Christina Shea

    Well Jeff Lalloway is all a part of this investigation of me and the filing of this FPPC complaint. I am not a lobbyist and our City Attorney has opined, on that fact, in writing, and has opined verbally that I have not violated any State laws. However, Jeff wont let this go. He is a man on a mission, out to destroy anyone that disagrees with him on any issue, especially a woman. But in spite of Jeff’s continual attacks and social media melt downs, and Jeff trying unsuccessfully to take my job in 2010, I would suggest he get a job of his own, so he can be a bit more productive with his time. This tweeter advertising, he promotes as a divorce attorney, is questionable and has raised many eyebrows. I work for the good of my community and in spite of his negativity, I will continue to serve my community as best as I can. it is an election year, so there it is!

    • Jax

      This is Jeff Lalloway.

      Again trying to blame me for your wrongdoing. You’re the one that took $100,000 a year–an incredible amount of money–from a local business to lobby city staff. If it wasn’t for lobbying what was it for? You are a real estate salesperson.

      I helped get you elected in 2012. Huge mistake on my part.

      And the City Attorney did not opine that you didn’t violate any STATE laws. If you disagree with that, perhaps we should vote to make his opinions public. Let’s do that.

    • @Dan Chmielewski

      Jeff Lalloway has nothing to do the FPPC complaint I made as a result of an article published on this site in December 2015 and with the use of records I obtained from the city on my own. You may continue to insist he and I are in cohoots on this, but we are not. The Liberal OC has gone after Mr. Lalloway a number of times in the past and we will again. Mr. Lalloway and I have a cordial relationship when it comes to discussing college basketball between our respective schools, but you seem to think the Lalloways are at my house for dinner nightly.
      As far as Mr. Lalloway’s Facebook advertising (it’s Twitter you’re thinking of, not Tweeter), advertising legal services for divorce situatons is hardly questionable. What is questionable is that it appears you continue to use staff for babysitting services when you’re at city council meetings. Tell me Ms. Shea, are you paying Mr. Davis for babysitting services while he supports you at city hall meetings or are the taxpayers doing so. My wife and I are both working professionals and I know good child care is hard to find, but perhaps that’s an expense you need to take on instead of having city staff “volunteer” to babysit for you.

      • Jacki Livingston

        The babysitting thing is a cheap shot. It is also beneath you.

        • @Dan Chmielewski

          Taxpayer funded babysitting; not a cheap shot.

          • Jacki Livingston

            Funny, I didn’t hear anything about Ms. Shea having an employee or anyone else babysitting. Fourth graders are fairly self sufficient, for short periods of time. Sitting quietly at her seat, doing her homework and observing her government and her mother at work doesn’t seem like a bad thing. If the child was unruly, disruptive, rude or disrespectful to the process, then I would agree with you. But, from what I hear, she was not. It really is no different than Take Your Child to Work Day. I used to be a property manager, and there were times when my fourth grade daughter sat in a corner of the office, doing her homework. You are taking a cheap shot because she is a woman. Had she been a man, you never would have noticed the child or who was caring for it. If you cannot stick to the primary professional issue at hand, you cheapen your argument. You don’t like the lady. Fine. But don’t play the mommy shaming card, because it is not relevant to your argument. You see, most of us females get to be the ones who handle child care, teaching and raising. Her position gave that child a unique opportunity to not only see the process of governance, which gives a lot of understanding to our young people, but she also got to see what Mom is doing, when she isn’t home, and that is useful for a child, that they can really understand the work that parents do. Kids need to see parents work. It helps create a work ethic, for their future, and I frankly don’t see why anyone would have a problem with that. Good for her. Maybe more parents who serve in office should share that reality with their kids. Taking her to task for a non-issue is quite petty and reduces the validity of your original argument. Plus, it comes off as more than a wee bit sexist. Unless Ms. Shea specifically directed an employee of the council or city to babysit, or unless the child was unruly, this is not any kind of violation. Get over it, and keep to what matters. Personally, I would much rather my taxes went to babysitting officials’ kids, than paying to Todd Spitzer’s daily latte and scone.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            It’s her granddaughter and not her daughter. Leaving a nine or 10 year old to fend for themselves is irresponsible. But the grandddaughter ant the issue. It’s Ms. shea who has has a member of her staff babysit after hours at her home and has a new babysitter who is another member of her staff. I was speaking with another elected official today in another city who has a kid the same age. This person would never leave their kid by themselves during a meeting. If Shea needs a babysitter for council meetings, let her pay for it from her own pocket like everyone else

          • Jacki Livingston

            I raise my own grandson, so I don’t know if that is the case, but if it is, then…no. She should not have any paid staffers on the city payroll babysitting for her. And I don’t know any 9 or 10 year olds who cannot sit quietly for an hour or two, within my eyesight. My grandson is fairly self sufficient. However, I still stand by what I said. You are diluting your message with side issues. Stick to the point. And, Ms. Shea, if you are using staffers for babysitting on taxpayer dollars, then stop it.

    • Jacki Livingston

      Had you been lobbying for some gun manufacturer for the NRA, they would have thrown you a party over at the Dana Point Hotel. See, you can’t get away with lobbying for Kia, not in a County where the governing hotshots sold their Souls…

      Ba-dum-dum…yup, I’ll be here all week.

      Seriously, this is such a ridiculous storm, especially given the misconduct of Todd Spitzer. Whether he is pulling a gun and cuffing his critics, or using his wife and client to illegally influence and keep him off the witness chair, he is coated with orange teflon. But these guys need to divert attention away from their corruption, so they made you a sacrificial lamb, and that is both hypocritical and unfair.

  • occynic

    wow…any day now I expect to see Jeff Lalloway listed on the VOC sponsor page.

    • Jax

      This is Jeff Lalloway.

      There is an OC Register article about Corrupt Christina’s scheme of accepting funds from an Irvine business to lobby city staff. I guess I’m a sponsor of the Register too.

      • Jacki Livingston

        You are all ridiculous. You make mountains out of molehills on things that don’t matter at all, but you guys conveniently ignore much more heinous conduct from your good ol’ boys like Spitzer. So, for me, I don’t care if you sponsor the LA Times. You are still just writing drivel about nothing, while truly abusive and horrible things continue to go on with no light being shined on it. What a joke.

  • Christina Shea

    Cynthia, Thanks for your comments…I have never been reluctant to share what I do for work. It’s in all the other articles I was interviewed for in the past. I am also cautious to protect the interest and integrity of those I work for. The press loves to dig into corners and at times, go too far in my opinion. I have always taken my public duties seriously, and I know the press does their job well, most of the time. Now that the FPPC is looking into these allegations, I do not want to comment on rumors, so the press can write more stories. I have had four legal opinions, to the fact, I have not violated the law, so presently, it is best to wait to see what comes of this review. We are part time electeds and must hold full time employment, unless we are wealthy or our spouses support us, I don’t fall into either category. So I get counsel from my City attorney, to help me ensure I follow all the proper laws related to my work efforts. He has opined I have not violated any State or Local laws. If the press wants to continue to write redundant stories to try and make headlines, to try and imply I am unethical, it’s now become apparent its more about politics, and my upcoming election, than being fair or reasonable. Its time to let things play out and allow these attacks and questions to be answered in the proper course of time.

    • Cynthia Ward

      This is not the only case of a public official acting as a “government relations” professional, which makes sense in a way, since nobody knows how to navigate the system like someone inside the system. HOWEVER, when one is an elected official, and also working professionally in the same field, it would be naive to think the public, and political opponents, are not going to dig into that. In too many cases it is a conflict of interest waiting to happen. We see the same issues in Fullerton with a Council member (I believe she may be Mayor this year) who also works as a lobbyist, and becomes defensive when asked about the clients of her employer. To that I can only say, “Oh PLEASE…” when someone works in government affairs and is also elected to office, prepare for the scrutiny, it is fair and reasonable. Unless they have a hard policy of NOT engaging the City where they are elected to serve on behalf of the client operating in the same city, expect a complaint. It isn’t a stretch, and the public would be derelict in OUR OWN duty to act as the check and balance to government if we did not question those dual roles. I am sorry that political opponents use it as a weapon, but anyone operating successfully enough to have made enemies is also smart enough to have seen it coming, and smart enough to avoid the conflicts and weather the storm. Perhaps producing emails or other records showing a pattern of practice that engages the City on behalf of businesses in the city who are not clients would dispel the rumors. Ms. Shea, I advise you hold your head high (that is how we properly support the imaginary tiara) refasten the cape, and keep moving. Let others around you work themselves into a frenzy while you remain calm in your belief you have done nothing wrong. Engaging them only encourages them. And I am sure Voice of OC will keep us all in the loop regarding the outcome of the file. Right?

  • Cynthia Ward

    Dan, Ryan does not work for the government, nor does he work for you, therefore what he does or how he does it is none of your business. Maybe all the people you sign the fronts of paychecks for are on an hourly basis, and you regulate when they can use the loo. Not everyone lives like that. When on salary, and when one is known to work evenings and weekends when needed, then a whole lot of wiggle room is offered. When one is known in the office to get the job done without an issue, and therefore able to manage their time on behalf of the employer, the employer doesn’t care whether you stop to handle online personal business, they know you will complete whatever task is needed for them. It is how adults work, give Ryan some credit for being the highly accomplished professional that he is.

    Ms. Shea, I respect you and all you have built in your career. But it is reasonable to question the fact that you govern in Irvine while working for one of Irvine’s larger corporations, and your work is specific to interacting with the government you run. It is not outrageous to question this issue, and if there is nothing to be alarmed about then you should have the confidence to let the FPPC do their jobs and know it will all work out. I am sorry that law enforcement is often so twisted in their unwillingness to pursue legit cases against elected officials (See District Attorney) that it seems the only way to stay on complaints is to have media attention, which is unfortunate for all. I have been subject to FPPC complaints myself, and had to sit back in the confidence that I had not done anything wrong and the truth would come out in the end, which is what happened, and Ms. Shea I am sure that will be the outcome for you as well. Getting angry with those who call for accountability in government doesn’t help anyone. Good luck.

    • RyanCantor

      I apologize for you having to read through that ridiculous thread. Thank you for stating what’s perfectly obvious to anyone who’s had any appreciable life experience.

      • @Dan Chmielewski

        and I’d like to thank the person who sent me a screen grab of Ryan commenting on his favorite blog questioning the size of my hands #LittleRyan #Rubiowannabe. Best laugh I had all morning

        • Cynthia Ward

          And there goes Dan, once again not engaging the subject matter of the original Voice of OC post, nor addressing his own accusations against a commenter also not tied to the original article. We bounced from a non-story on someone in government whose work and potential conflict IS Dan’s business as a constituent, to the work ethic of a non-government, private sector employee whose actions are none of Dan’s business (as he is NOT the employer) and now we have jumped to what Ryan thinks of Dan’s…um…hands…Wow. Squirrel.

          Ask your doctor if ADD meds might be right for you. Side effects may include staying on topic, increased reading comprehension, and maintaining range of insults within a subject of relevance to the discussion at hand. Some generics available, depending upon which ObamaCare plan your democratic heart signed your family up for.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            I already weighed in on the original topic Cynthia; one of the FPPC complaints against Ms. Shea is mine. Keep your eye on that Squirrel and don’t forget to hold up that mirror to your friends OK?

          • Jacki Livingston

            Game…set…match. Well played, madam. *chuckle*

    • Jacki Livingston

      She, and you, have legitimate beefs with this kind of thing. True corruption is being ignored, while petty little nothings are treated like some big deal. The good ol’ boys in OC “press” (using the term ironically and with rolled eyes) are never going to print anything about the boy’s club members. Instead, they chastise a woman for having her daughter sit quietly and do her homework at a council meeting, and other nonsensical drivel. They ignore the really misconduct, and puff out their chests as they fight a fake war on corruption everywhere except where real corruption exists. Unfair to you both, IMHO.

      • @Dan Chmielewski

        If you are referring to Mr. Spitzer’s “citizen’s arrest,” the VOC has a lawsuit pending against the county to access the records the county is trying to shield from the public. They’ve written about it. Please make a contribution to the VOC so they can handle the legal fees associated with this effort.

        • Jacki Livingston

          No, I am not. That incident was ludicrous and idiotic, but not illegal or an ethics violation.

  • Christina Shea

    No I wont be giving Adam, Dan or Jeff Lalloway, the trinity, working together on this investigation, any information about my personal life. Dan’s close friend and others, confirmed to me Jeff Lalloway was the initiator of this investigation. I will say, as Adam knows, Dan knows and as Jeff knows, we all must file a 700 form each year disclosing our business efforts and provide a range of income. This year I filed my form and on that form I disclosed my efforts for KIA Motors and my real estate efforts and the range of my income. Next year, you will see my business efforts for real estate and KIA Motors again, and what income ranges for this year, I have made. But beyond that, it isn’t going to go any further. KIA is an outstanding Company and they have given so much to our OC Community. I appreciate all they do and have great friendships with staff. Continually bringing them into your attack on me, is unwarranted. Oh and they didn’t return your calls? Wow who is surprised about that Adam…why should they, they know you are on a witch hunt after me. I will comply with any request the FPPC has for me, and after having four attorneys now opine, these were just questions and I have the right to ask questions, so we will have to wait to see what they determine. And, as always, I will follow all the laws I am required to follow. This headline is a non story, running out of people investigate this week?

    • Jax

      This is Jeff Lalloway.

      You can blame me all you want, but the truth is that you are the one lining your pockets off the backs of the citizens of Irvine. The voters who put you in office are now shown that you are willing to make over $100,000 per year from an Irvine business to lobby city staff. Well, Corrupt Christina, the FPPC will be the one to decide if you broke the law.

      Oh, the City Attorney did not opine that you didn’t violate any state laws. He only gave you his opinion about City Of Irvine laws. Just goes to show that you will say or do anything to win reelection.

      • Jacki Livingston

        Childish, check
        Nasty, check
        Rude and unprofessional? Double check.

        The only one who looks bad here? Is you.

        • @Dan Chmielewski

          I disagree. A councilwoman who makes staff say “how Hugh” when she says “jump” for her client is corrupt

    • Jacki Livingston

      They are not running out of people. They are protecting the true misconduct, so they have to create a storm somewhere else. Stay classy, and ignore them. The OC has no really newspeople, anymore.

  • Ltpar

    Adam quit trying to be Sherlock Holmes and stick to the nickle dime reporter you really are. It is none of your or anybody else’s business what any City Council people do for a living, as long as it is legal. The City Attorney already ruled on this issue and eventually the FPPC will get around to clearing Shea as well. When that happens, are you and that other flake Dan C. going to print a letter of apology. I seriously doubt it. Throwing smelly brown stuff on a wall to see what sticks is a long way from investigative reporting. You should get a real job? .

    • RyanCantor

      “It is none of your or anybody else’s business what any City Council people do for a living, as long as it is legal.”

      . . . isn’t that the point?

      • Ltpar

        Ryan, the point is, there is no point to this witch hunt. There are forces at play in Irvine led by Jeff Lalloway, using pawns like Dan C. and Adam Elmahrek to pressure Christina Shea to not run for re-election in November. Shea has refused to buckle under to Lalloway’s “bully boy” personality and he has made personal threats to end her political career. Lalloway, like all bullies needs to be taken down a few notches and I think this will happen in November. With Steven Choi’s departure Lalloway see’s himself as Mayor elect and it just isn’t going to happen. There will be a dark horse candidate appear who will run for Mayor and be elected. Christina Shea will also run and be elected. That leaves the third seat up for grabs and my guess is it will go to the Shea/Dark Horse slate of candidates. With a little luck, Lalloway and his clone, Lynn Schott will end up in a minority of two.

        • RyanCantor

          This isn’t a rebuke of your theory, but let’s not put Adam in the same pot as Dan.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            I agree Ryan; Adam’s a fulltime professional here and the blog is part-time at best for me; much like the job you report to every day that interferes with your blog commenting time.

        • RyanCantor

          This is exactly the kind of crap I’m talking about Ltpar.

          Dan is in this to make people feel small. That’s it. There’s simply no excuse for his prior comment, but he leaves little love notes like this regularly.

          You’ll never, ever, see Adam stoop this low.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            you cheat your employer every day Ryan; most good companies have social media policies. Good for you to work for someone who doesn’t

          • RyanCantor

            Look at you, you sad little man!

            Dan, I really hope you get the help you need. Running around the internet haunting people is no way to live.

            Be well.

            (And your allegations about me are completely false, but you don’t really care. I know.)

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            Ryan, you leave evidence of your time spent on the blogs all day every time you post. Your dad owns the company, right? Follow your own advice about trolling people online.

          • RyanCantor

            But that’s what you don’t get. Not only are you just being mean for the sake of being mean, you’re also being lazy and you’re also a big fat liar. None of what you’ve said about me is true. None of it.

            Here we are in another exchange about my personal time on an article and in a comment string that has absolutely no relation to the topic at hand. That’s why you’re a sad man, Dan. That’s why you’re trolling.

            Could we be talking about inappropriate interaction between an elected official and the private sector? Could we be talking about the critique related to that official? Sure. Are we? NO! Why? Because you’d rather get off on being a bully.

            You do it for giggles.

            You lie for giggles.

            I’m sure you’re really proud about it, too.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            Five comments from you all during the business day; all on break I’m sure, from a personal computer or a personal internet connection no doubt. But none of what I said is true? Sure, tell yourself that. Things written online for the sake of being mean? You’re a hypocrite, you know that right? Have a great day Ryan. You can dish, but you certainly can’t take it. And that’s true.

          • RyanCantor

            None of what you said is true, correct. You’re a lying liar who lies. You lie for sport.

            Also, get a dictionary and look up the word hypocrite. You keep using that word like it means something that it doesn’t. I most certainly AM a hypocrite, but have the common decency, or at least literacy, to use the word in its proper context.

            If you want to critique my opinion, you’re welcome to it. I most certainly cannot take your blatant lies. I do my best to tell the truth, which is a far cry from you.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            So you’re not working today? Vacation day, PTO or unemployed? Let me know sport. I’d hate to lie about you. Perhaps I’ll wander over to OJ and county how many comments you’ve left there today. Or over to Matt’s blog to count the “Reality Is…” posts.
            And in this particular post, I certain have questioned Ms. Shea’s “government relations work” in the context of the FPPC complaint.
            But by all means, be specific about what it is I lied about and provide proof I did so.

          • RyanCantor

            Oh, hey! Look at you asking questions to justify your lies. That’s really sad, Dan. Maybe you should have asked those questions before running your mouth. Might have saved you some trouble. In any case, your comments TO ME (really Dan? You can’t be that obtuse.) still have absolutely no relevance to the thread.

            I sincerely doubt your lack of sincerity concerning your habitual lying. I hear Trump is looking for a VP. You might want to put your name in the hat.

            Cheers.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            and no answers provided I see. Ryan says “lies” but cannot back it up. Onion-thin skin? How about wafer-thin? Document lies Ryan. You can’t.

          • RyanCantor

            That’s ridiculous, Dan.

            If I accused you of having an affair and fathering illegitimate children, then turned around and insisted that you prove me wrong, you’d tell me to pound sand. First, because my claim is outrageous. Second, because it’s impossible to prove a negative.

            Your claims are outrageous. You are not entitled to know what I do with my time. Period. You are not entitled to proof that you’re a liar.

            Your simply entitled to your ignorance, your arrogance, and frankly your stupidity. If you’d like relief from any of the three, that’s your investment to make. Demanding my charity is not a solution to your problems.

            You’re a liar, Dan. Worse, again, none of your lies have anything to do with the topic at hand. You’re simply doing it for your enjoyment.

            I think you know what that makes you.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            weak sauce. I’d actually insist on proof on the affair and kids. Then my lawyer would be all over you, because you’d deserve it. Ryan, did you work today or not? Are you on vacation or other PTO? Are you unemployed? Because if you are in fact on the job while you post these remarks, you are stealing from your employer. I realize it is inconvenient for you to admit, but you are. So I must surmise, you have some sort of class with senior management that allows you to comment so often on social media when you ought to be working. I run my own business and put in about 10-12 hours a day. I can. You? Not so much. if and when the day comes when you get fired for your online/not job related activity, try not to act surprised.

          • RyanCantor

            Again, ridiculous.

            1) STILL not relevant to the topic

            2) You completely shifted the goalposts. Your allegations are true until they’re proven false inspite of the fact you’ve offered nothing but your poor assumptions as evidence. You’re a jackass, therefore you beat your wife. Until you prove you don’t beat your wife, I’m right. That’s equally obnoxious and false. Your assumptions are completely wrong and revealing personal details from my life to correct your ignorance, arrogance, and stupidity is completely ridiculous.

            3) You can’t even hold yourself to your own absurd standard! You’re not guilty of time theft, not because you actually know what it is, but because you give yourself permission to be a thief? Wow. That’s special. Dan, even you’re better than that.

            You’re a liar and you’re cruel.

            Ltpar, case and point above. Adam, and pretty much everyone in the county, does not belong in the same bucket as Dan. Dan seeks to destroy people’s lives.

            I’m some dude who doesn’t even live in Irvine and here he is trying to destroy my livelihood. Why? To prove he’s right? Nope. We’re not even arguing.

            He’s doing it to demonstrate his superiority. Why? I’m sure there’s a long sad story that goes with it, too.

          • RyanCantor

            Also, we’re done here, Dan. Go bully someone else.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            Ryan, you’re obtuse. I have asked you for the truth several times and instead of being truthful, you have a fit. I’ve asked you to point out any lies and you are unable and incapable of doing so. You’re the sad one here. But you have a great night and ponder your inability to answer a simple question.

          • RyanCantor

            Jesus, Dan. While you’re in the dictionary looking up hypocrite, look up obtuse. Throwing into any old sentence just doesn’t work. Words actually mean specific things.

            You’re demanding I prove a negative based on a piss poor definition of time theft. I’m not cooperating with your snit fit because you’re not entitled to it. You defamed me for absolutely no reason other than your enjoyment and it’s not my responsibility to cure the world of your many faults.

            You can’t just run around the internet haunting and defaming people, then turn around and proclaim THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE after telling a string of lies.

            You want the truth, Dan? Demonstrate you can actually handle it. Tell the truth yourself.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            it’s like arguing with a child. Go and hold your breath until you turn blue Ryan. You’re calling me a liar. Prove it. Is that a hard concept for you? I defamed you? I asked you a few questions you refused to answer. The truth is a defense Ryan, and point out you are a frequent comment on social media during what constitutes working hours for most is not defamation but a fact.

          • RyanCantor

            And here you are, how many hours later, pitching the same lie, the same fit, for the same stupid reason?

            Go to sleep, Dan. You spend way too much time and effort trying to harm people you don’t even know.

            Maybe you’ll wake up happier.

          • Rivett

            You leave evidence of your activities too, in the same way a snail does.

          • Jacki Livingston

            I agree with your first point. Well said. But let’s not let VoC off the hook. They make a huge deal over relatively small things, but give huge passes to others, like the BoS, because they don’t want to be blocked from the inner sanctum. It comes off as petty and more than a little bit suspect. There are much bigger stories and atrocities going on in this county. Why don’t they do anything about reporting that?

    • @Dan Chmielewski

      It is the public’s business when an elected official is paid by a third party to move things along quickly for her client Pat. So when the FPPC rules against her, will Shea (and you) apologize to the public?

      • Ltpar

        I have always been man enough to admit when I am wrong. In this case, I have no fear because Christina is innocent of wrongdoing. How about you Dan, since you opened this can of worms, are you man enough to admit when you are wrong?

        • @Dan Chmielewski

          I do all the time Pat.