• LFOldTimer

    The fish always rots from the head down, dear friends. This case is no exception.

    Never assume that the ones assigned and sworn to enforce the laws will obey the laws themselves.

    Never assume who the good guys are. You’ll only play the fool by doing so.

    Be very careful when you use the word “hero”, when the good boys don’t hold the bad boys accountable.

    “Just as every cop is a criminal
    And all the sinners saints
    As heads is tails
    Just call me Lucifer
    ‘Cause I’m in need of some restraint”

    Jagger/Richards 1968

    .

  • Let me see, all this judicial battling being over 2 convicted murderers? one plead guilty, the other found guilty by a jury. what about the hundreds of smaller cases where possibly innocent people have been convicted due to such evidence. In the recent primary I looked at who is running for judges, and who won, most were prosecuting attorneys. Do voters honestly believe these candidates were ignorant of the snitch activities or do they even care? or do voters just flip a coin?

    • LFOldTimer

      It seems you’ve boxed us into the corner with only 2 choices, Dweezey.

      Either:

      1. The electoral system is rigged.

      or

      2. California voters are as stupid as a box of rocks.

      You decide.

      • I would say 1&2 are both accurate, do you have any other ideas OT? I’d like to hear some.

  • Bert Ashland

    If everything in this story is factual and objective then there is a problem. My worry when reading the VOC is how badly Norberto allows the facts to be twisted to fit his liberal narrative. So I’m left wondering if Rex Dalton is giving it to us straight or not.

    • It’s not a question of “liberal” or “conservative.” Nobody wants criminals running around on the street. Dekraai and Wozniak are probably the least innocent people in OC. But this secret informant program was running for at least 25 years, and they put some serious criminals in charge of securing confessions. It’s clear now some of the people who confessed were innocent, and other people confessed involuntarily. Worse, the Sheriffs were lying about it the whole time. These practices undermine the integrity of our legal system. This ought to bother you deeply. It’s more than just a “problem.” It conjures images of the USSR, where people frequently “confessed” to just about anything the government desired.

      So instead of concern trolling about media bias, maybe you should start being concerned about what is actually happening.

  • Paul Lucas

    Geez??!! How long can this go on before some of these people are arrested?

    • No one will ever be arrested for this. The wolves are the ones guarding the hen house.

  • OCservant_Leader

    We are seeing how the OC has created two systems. One is the “formal” process they (the corrupt family in power) manipulates based on info collected from the “informal” secret network.

    There are eerie similarities to the secret process revealed in these murder cases and how the County collects false info to use against employees.

  • LFOldTimer

    And the story just keeps getting worse for the knights in shining armor mounted on the white stallions.

    Why no comment from the police union hack? Is Sander’s to blame for exposing more rot?

    Why no comment from Hutchens? How’s that remedial training working out, btw? Are the veteran cops who the Judge accused of withholding material evidence or lying on the witness stand getting A’s? Are they still getting their step increases and performance bonuses?

    What happened to the OIR? Can we bring back Stephen Connolly to get to the bottom of all this? Did he transfer to a new watchdog agency? I have an idea. Stephen could go to work for Loretta Lynch and oversee Hillary.