• Rose Tingle

    Change begins with each one of us.

  • Fullerton Rag

    Nice thoughts, but good luck with “non-partisan” local elections when the candidates are endorsed by political parties and clearly promoted as members of those parties.

    Possibly worse, no amount of community togetherness trumps an elected official acting in accord with the priorities of a private lobbying firm and its interests instead of behalf of constituents.

    Did any of the authors of this article vote for Donald Trump, an ignorant pig of a human being, who is obviously unfit and unable to govern our country? Just try reasoning with anyone who did, and then see how far your friendship goes.

  • LFOldTimer

    I truly yearn for an honest conversation on ILLEGAL immigration with the likes of those with opinions and attitudes such as those who authored the content of this blog.

    There is so much distortion and omission of relevant information here I really don’t know where to start.

    The Lincoln quotes are nice but not relevant to what’s going on in 2016. Today Americans are reeling from is a lack of satisfaction and protection and representation from the political hacks in DC who placed their interests above the interests of the common citizen. This is why Trump’s campaign slogan “Make America Great Again” packed such a powerful punch and delivered a decisive victory by a whopping 36 electoral votes. The people had enough of business (politics) as usual and took it to the polls. That’s democracy in action. And please, don’t invoke the popular vote. The nation has used the electoral vote to determine who lives in the White House from the formation of the union and for GOOD reason. So let’s discuss what IS rather than what WOULD have been IF…. Productive discussions require ground rules.

    “In the heart of things we are all neighbors.”

    Yes, I guess you could make that sweeping generality. It sounds nice. But I don’t allow my neighbor to enter my residence at will and enjoy whatever resources I have to his liking. In fact, I don’t know anybody who allows that. We humans aren’t hard-wired in that way. Even when friends and relatives visit it’s nice to share the fruits of our labor with them – but at the end of the evening when the sand man cometh it’s awfully nice to see them walk out the door too. Imagine if they showed up and never left – then asked you to pay for their education and medical care and let them have your job? What would you tell them?

    People have to understand that nations have borders for a reason. This is not indigenous to the United States or even to the human species. All nations have borders – just like bees live in separate hives and bears lives separate caves. This is basic Biology 101. The DNA variation between a human being and a bear is small. They’re our neighbors too. Would you allow one into your home?

    All nations have immigration laws too. Yes, human governments just do! If you don’t like the US immigration laws and want open borders then go change the darn laws! In the meantime, obey the ones we have. They were enacted for good reason. Every nation I’ve entered (and I’ve been in a lot of them) have required me to show my identity and authorization to enter their land. And if I ever decided to overstay my welcome and use their resources on somebody else’s dime or illegally take one of their jobs their government would give me free temporary housing in a place with iron barred windows and following my stay provide me with a one-way ticket back to where I came from. That’s just reality.

    “Local law enforcement leaders could reassure the immigrant community that they do not enforce immigration law, that is the responsibility of the Federal government, not local police”

    These comments, particularly from people who hold or have held high government offices and were sworn under oath to uphold the laws and defend the US Constitution, really sticks in my craw. Seriously. Local law enforcement is OBLIGATED to cooperate with Federal authorities in the enforcement of Federal laws. At least in a civilized society. How would you like it if someone who violated California State laws was captured coming across the border and Federal immigration officials refused to cooperate with state authorities and cut him loose? That wouldn’t be fair, would it? Do you oppose local cops responding to a bank robbery, which is considered a Federal crime and usually prosecuted as such? Do you oppose local cops from assisting the Feds on international money laundering investigations? What about kidnappings that cross state lines? Do you promote telling the Feds to pound sand? So this contrived agenda to refuse to cooperate on criminal immigration investigations is both irrational and unamerican. And if you claim to be a patriotic law abiding American citizen and promote such nonsense you need to have a ‘come to jesus’ discussion with the mirror.

    With regard to Muslims – Trump simply wants a better vetting system so we know who’s coming into our country. The system we have now is BROKEN! And who in their right mind would question that after San Bernardino, Orlando and now Ohio State University, etc, etc, etc…?

    This is not 1855 and Abraham Lincoln is long gone. We are living is a COMPLETELY different nation today. You’d have to be a couple egg rolls and a won ton soup short of a full Chinese platter to believe that we’re the same nation. We’re not. Populations have exploded, standard of living is on the decline and it’s more important then ever to protect our borders and our citizens who live within those borders – just like every other nation on the earth does.

    I am not saying to halt immigration. That would be incredibly stupid. I am saying to restore ORDERLY and CIVILIZED immigration. And millions of others believe the same way I do – which is one big reason the majority of voters in 30 states voted for Trump.

    So please, let’s have an honest and open conversation on this important domestic issue and even if we can’t agree on what direction we want to take as a nation – at least let’s agree on the facts as they stand today as opposed to filtering the facts or obscuring them with distortion and misinformation.

    Oh, and don’t take another person’s opinion personally. Be objective.