• LFOldTimer

    The homeless problem in OC is only going to get worse. And LB is prime real estate for homeless people. Think about it. If you were homeless where would you want to hang out? Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Anaheim or Laguna Beach? A lousy one bedroom apartment in OC runs about $1700/mo. Try working a $10-$12/hr job and surviving in OC. Somebody’s got to bus your tables at the Montage Hotel or make your coffee lattes at Starbucks. A third of the county is a paycheck away from being homeless. Not all homeless are crazy or drug addicts, folks. Some just lost a job and can’t afford to make ends meet. Not everyone has rich parents or friends who are willing to provide free room and board. Life is hard. A simple mistake or a turn of events can really put somebody behind the eight ball.

    Trump is trying to change things. He wants to bring jobs back home. Kick the illegals who consume jobs and resources out of the country. Turn schools back into institutions of learning instead of indoctrination centers. Transfer some of the heisted money from the 1% and return it to Main Street. Give the man a chance. Let him work. For once we have a man in the White House who wants to help the commoner. Know who your friends are.

  • verifiedsane

    Is Laguna Beach going to issue their public humane waste deification map next…Creating a Southern Cal San Fransisco, is following a path to failure, while creating a growing permanent problem with zero viable solutions. Laguna will reap exactly what they sow. The clueless policies of offering often ineffective and damaging pills and a squatters prison; instead of offering real hope and a path back into greater society shows the true ignorance of Laguna Beach ( also OC as a whole) public policies when it comes to the homeless population, mental affliction, & their often ominous plight.

    The following quote from a comment copy and pasted below shows how completely out of touch with really many are when it comes to casting condemnation stones from their comfortable glass towers down upon the mentally afflicted castaways of our society today.

    “The story says nothing about the homeless peoples’ responsibilities in
    obtaining mental health services (almost free to those that are truly
    mentally ill) and at following the medication recommendations of their
    psychiatrist and social worker.”

    The castaways of society don’t trust poorly constructed establishment policies or the overlords, because they know from their long established lived experience, that their basic human dignity and their precious individual right to self determination is at stake, and is often times the price being demanded of them. That trade off for most of these forgotten relegated to obscurity populations is viewed as not worth the unreasonable sacrifices/price being placed before them .They often don’t need or want county social services stepping into own them as societal governmental cash cows after all.

    How many of those commenting here have actually sat down with any of these broad stroke painted down trodden to learn the actual path these individuals have traveled, and which has lead them to their current predicament. You might just be very surprised of what you’ll find and learn, when you make the effort to look beyond the stereotypes and hyperbole. There are no one size, fits all solutions.

  • MsPolly

    I have conflicted thoughts on this subject. I think it’s ironic that Laguna is getting picked on given that it likes its reputation of being a bastion of liberalism; no more, however. It’s laden with a fascistic planning commission and city council full of unsatisfied control needs. The residents are largely self-absorbed materialists with a thin coating of ersatz hippiedom. The police, especially one big-hearted corporal, do their best at balancing the rights of the individual homeless person while trying to keep their commander and council at bay. Hearing that the ACLU is looking at Laguna is ironic, indeed.
    The story says nothing about the homeless peoples’ responsibilities in obtaining mental health services (almost free to those that are truly mentally ill) and at following the medication recommendations of their psychiatrist and social worker. Shelter Plus Care (Section 8 housing) is available on fairly short notice for those that meet certain criteria. Sure, they won’t be living along the coast of Laguna but there will be a roof over their head and help at their door.
    The truth is that homeless shouldn’t be made comfortable for people as it does not provide an incentive for movement to a more traditional way of living–living responsibly.
    The truth is that more than a few of the homeless in Laguna are not mentally ill. They are the same bohemian-types that populate Portland, Oregon and Prague, Czech Republic.
    The truth is that for a homeless solution to happen, effective services need to be organized in an assembly-line like manner and it’s either “go through our process or receive NO other support.”
    “If you build it they will come,” right? We’ve built a system that encourages people to wander around aimlessly. We’re not doing them any favors with the current system, obviously–because we are getting more of them…all over the place. It’s gross that they have to live this way. It’s gross that we, as taxpayers, have to witness this. It’s just gross.

    • Patricia Harrigan Wilson

      The residents are largely self-absorbed materialists with a thin coating of ersatz hippiedom.

      What a nasty thing to say. I’ve lived here 24 years and can say that comment is not only wrong but obnoxious !

      • MsPolly

        Have you been to a planning commission meeting lately?

    • verifiedsane

      There is little doubt there are those that chose to live a home free life style, and know exactly how to work the system to their advantage. Yet, those individuals are a very small segment of the without a stick home population. Many times you’ll find the street population are marginalized outcast from established societal norms which include parolees, the drug/alcohol addicted, mentally afflicted, habitually jobless, physically in-firmed, seniors, wayward youth, situational/circumstantial house-less, and much more. There is not a standard one size fits all definition of being without home.

      I would suggest you try placing aside everything you own besides what you can stuff into a day-pack without your ATM card, cash, or credit cards; then go live on the streets for just one week. Try sleeping in a shelter for a few nights, receive some handout food, and experience the reality of being without home. Then come back here and share your experience with everyone. I will go out on a limb and predict your opinions and views related to this topic would change dramatically.

      • Patricia Harrigan Wilson

        None of that has anything to do with your obnoxious comment denigrating all residents of Laguna Beach !

        • verifiedsane

          My obnoxious comment? what planet are you commenting from?….read Patricia read….it appears that you’re are spreading your very own hilltop version of denigrating poison. 🙂

          • Patricia Harrigan Wilson

            I thought I was replying to someone else, sorry.

      • MsPolly

        I know of what I speak as I spent many years of my life providing services to this population. Yes, there are many paths to homelessness. I’ve been to shelters, flop houses, county clinics, B&Cs, detoxes, etc. and my opinion is informed by these experiences. Laguna Beach is a magnet and is bearing the brunt in this problem with no currently tried solution.

        • Patricia Harrigan Wilson

          “The residents are largely self-absorbed materialists with a thin coating of ersatz hippiedom.”

          Put your broad brush down. Who are you to judge people you know nothing about ?

  • Patricia Harrigan Wilson

    Laguna Beach could have become a leader in homelessness policy. Laguna Beach already is a leader in homelessness policy. Newport Beach, Irvine and other cities but their homeless here and dump them because Laguna Beach does so much for the homeless. It’s time for all OC cities to step up and do there part. ACLU needs to back off Laguna Beach !