Santa Ana Marchers Join More Than a Million Worldwide to Protest Trump

Julie Leopo for Voice of OC

A bird's-eye view of the Women's March held in Santa Ana on Saturday to protest the administration of Donald J. Trump.

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Thousands of people in Santa Ana joined more than a million worldwide Saturday for the Women’s March to protest the administration of Donald J. Trump and call for equal treatment of women, minorities and immigrants.

The diverse group of marchers — numbering at least 10,000 — started at the intersection of Fourth and French streets around 9:30 a.m. and took a route down Santa Ana Boulevard to Ross Street and then down Third Street to the Yost Theater in the heart of downtown.

The scene as the marchers are headed down Fourth Street in Santa Ana.

Julie Leopo for Voice of OC

The scene as the marchers are headed down Fifth Street in Santa Ana.

Chants of “A people united will never be divided” and “Yes we can” filled the cool morning air, and many of the women wore pink knitted hats — called “pussyhats” — and held signs with sayings like: “Keep your tiny hands off my rights,” “immigrants welcome, fascists not,” and “IKEA has more qualified cabinets.”

Marchers were creative with their signs.

Julie Leopo for Voice of OC

Marchers were creative with their signs.

Marcher Doshanna Bell said that it was time for women to lead. “The men no longer know how to do it and we queens need to rise up.”

Judy Veiga, a special needs instructor in Tustin, said she was marching for her students to show the Trump administration that there are voices who will stand up and fight for the rights of those who can’t do so themselves.

A young marcher enjoying herself.

Julie Leopo for Voice of OC

A young marcher enjoying herself.

The last of the marchers finished the route around 11:15 a.m., and Santa Ana Police Commander Ruben Ibarra said the protest was peaceful and no arrests had been made as of 3 p.m.

A marcher holds a sign with a photo of a bikini-clad Melania Trump before she became first lady.

Julie Leopo for Voice of OC

A marcher holds a sign with a photo of a bikini-clad Melania Trump before she became first lady.

Santa Ana’s March was one of many held across the nation and the world in what marked the largest mass protest of a U.S. president’s inauguration in history.

The Washington Post reported that the main march, the Women’s March on Washington, drew at least 500,000 people. As many as 750,000 marched in Los Angeles, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Other marches were held in New York, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, and places as far flung as Paris and Melbourne, Australia.

Joining the marchers in Santa Ana were organizations including: Planned Parenthood of Orange County and San Bernardino, Greenpeace and Pantsuit Nation. Labor unions also turned out, as did LGBTQ organizations and immigrant rights groups.

One of many men who participated in the march.

Julie Leopo for Voice of OC

One of many men who participated in the march.

And there were plenty of men on hand as well.

Tom Turnley, a gay man from the Midwest, said he was out there to help prevent the civil rights clock from being turned back. He said he grew up in the 60’s and 70’s and understands the plight of marginalized groups.

“I know what it feels like to be the ‘other,’” Turnley said. “I fear we’re slipping back into a time of fear and repression.” He made it clear he was there to support women first, because they “were the most marginalized group.”

Umer Tawfic, a West African immigrant from Ghana, said he was also marching to prevent America from going backwards.

“You really have to respect the voice of the people,” Tawfic said, aiming his comment at Trump’s administration. “It would be disastrous if America were to fall back … America is like a role model to everybody (around the world).”

A woman holds her fist up in solidarity with fellow marchers.

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A woman holds her fist up in solidarity with fellow marchers.

Jacqueline Bustamante said complacency is to blame for Trump’s election.

“For so many years we stayed quiet because we were comfortable, then we got slapped,” Bustamante said, adding that she didn’t realize how prevalent racism was in other parts of the country. “I think we’re going to get stronger.”

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Spencer Custodio is a Voice of OC contributing writer. He can be reached at spencercustodio@gmail.com.

  • verifiedsane

    California is lost in its own dysfunctional alternative universe way beyond any particular political party affiliation…wasn’t that second line you used more appropriately descriptive of the recent anatomical genitalia hat wearing women’s march… 🙂

  • Judy Allen

    To those whom are confused or surprised about why millions of people showed up to protest Saturday. . .
    “Women are marching because our children deserve a secretary of education that cares about education.”

    “Women are marching because our family and friends deserve healthcare.
    Did you know that before the ACA, newborns in the NICU would hit their
    lifetime caps on health insurance coverage. That’s right, Babies who had
    never felt the sun on their skin could no longer get health insurance.”
    “Women are marching because domestic violence crisis centers and after school programs deserve funding.”
    “Women are marching because we deserve clean air, clean water, and national parks.”

    “Women are marching because we believe the children protected by the
    DREAM act deserve to be here and they deserve to live with their
    parents, not in orphanages and foster homes.”
    “And most of all,
    women are marching because we have the right to. The right to protest
    and speak out against our government is the first amendment. That’s
    right, #1! It is one of our most fundamental American rights.”

    “Saying that we’re whining, throwing temper tantrums, or that we’re
    immature, or that we need to get over it will not stop us. It will not
    stop us from fighting for you. And we are fighting for you because you
    deserve these rights too.”
    “We’re not marching because Trump won”

    “We’re marching because he wants to take all of the things that we hold
    dear away. All of the things that we’ve been fighting for for
    generations.”
    “And we’re not giving up easily.”
    “Anyone who thinks we’re marching because we lost just simply isn’t listening. We’re fighting because we refuse to lose more.”
    (Please copy and paste instead of sharing.)

    • verifiedsane

      Imagine a secretary of education that is more concerned with children getting a quality education and giving under privileged children the opportunity of better school choice in the countless inner city failing school systems. The absolute horror of it all…..

      The Teachers Unions must be very upset and howling at the moon that they are going to be held accountable to doing the job teachers were hired to do; actually teach our children. If not, parents will be provided a better alternative, and those failing teachers and districts will hear the words YOUR FIRED.

      The days of the liberal indoctrination and public employee union monopolies throughout the nations school systems are now behind us. You can whine, march, and cry all you wish; because that is not going to change the coming reality.

    • verifiedsane

      A Message of love & togetherness, women’s rights, & women’s equality?

      Linda Sarsour, a national co-chair of the Women’s March on Washington
      – whose stated mission is “to send a bold message…that women’s rights
      are human rights” – is also an outspoken advocate of Islamic Sharia Law that restricts the rights of women, claiming Sharia is “reasonable” and has simply been “misunderstood.”

      “We will not rest until women have parity and equity at all levels of
      leadership in society. We work peacefully while recognizing there is no
      true peace without justice and equity for all,” the Women’s March mission statement says, in part.

      Sarsour, a Palestinian Muslim American, who has said she believes that America is a nation built on the values of genocide and slavery and that “nothing is creepier than Zionism,” spoke at the Women’s March last Saturday.

      Sarsour has openly supported Sharia law, a legal system that treats women much differently than men and punishes lawbreakers with flogging, amputation, and stoning.

      Saudi Arabia is governed by Sharia law, and women there are “controlled by a man from birth until death” according to Human Rights Watch. Saudi women must obtain male permission to travel, marry, and even to exit prison.

      It is illegal for Saudi females to drive. In late 2014, Saudi authorities caught two women driving and detained them for 73 days.

      But Sarsour expressed her indifference to the illegality of female driving in Saudi Arabia, tweeting: “10 weeks of PAID maternity leave in Saudi Arabia. Yes PAID. And ur worrying about women driving. Puts us to shame.”

      any comdemnation coming?

  • kburgoyne

    Good report, Spencer. Thanks. It’s a shame some people feel it is appropriate to attack a news organization for simply covering an event that happened in the county. It would seem to be an effort to impose censorship.

  • verifiedsane

    It was the MSM calling out and using the term “p_ssy” hats; as well as broadcasting the whole gambit of blatant vulgarity, and the calls for violence/insurrection being spewed by the so called liberal and tolerant celebrities in print, television, and cable. Maybe you shouldn’t be running articles on such profane infused marches that promote such unapproved word/thought vulgarity.

    If the media didn’t employ these kinds of hypocritical double standards, they would have no standards at all. Have a nice day!

  • Jacki Livingston

    The marches were wonderful, a real American unity and strength. We’ve only just begun! Caroline Kennedy/Michelle Obama, Democrat ticket 2020!

    • LFOldTimer

      Why didn’t those women march after Bill Clinton r*ped and s*xually assaulted several women and used his presidential power to seduce an intern a third of his age for some under the desk action in the Oval Office? Why all the silence from the feminists who are pro-women and hate s*xual predators like Bill?

      And why didn’t the feminists protest Hillary who defended her s*xual predator husband while trash talking his s*xually abused female victims.

      Why do you think Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $850,000? Why no marches?

      And then there’s Hillary accepting million dollar plus Clinton Foundation Fund donations from Saudi Arabia – where women are routinely mutilated, beaten, slapped around, arrested and even killed for having the nerve to think for themselves? Why no marches?

      And you think Trump is a misogynist??? lol.

      • Gunny98

        Why haven’t those same women marched and protested the Hollywood record industry that for years has marketed and made ghetto hip hop and rappers millionaires by telling us about their “bitches and Ho’s?”

        • LFOldTimer

          Good question, Gunny.

          Maybe Jacki has an answer for us.

          • justanon

            Umm, because rappers and other music artists are not the POTUS who has the ability to make and drive policy that will affect their lives.
            The fact that anyone would find these two remotely comparable displays such a lack of understanding of political realities that I must chalk these comments up to parody. Ha ha … not.

          • LFOldTimer

            But the rappers and other music artists are a detrimental influence to the young people and spread metastatic anti-female sentiment throughout our society with their vulgar descriptions of women.

            Rappers and other music artists have a much greater influence on the caustic attitudes toward women than Donald Trump has.

            Open your mind.

          • justanon

            My reply quoting our new POTUS has been held up by this site, nuff said.

          • LFOldTimer

            Your response doesn’t make any sense to me.

            So do you want me to quote the rapper and hip hop ‘musicians’ with their lyrics that defile, degrade and humiliate women?

            Are you a woman, justanon? Do you approve of vulgar lyrics targeting women in hip hop music? Do the feminists approve of it? If not, they why no protests?

          • justanon

            Why would I care what any artist says? They are NOT in a position to make policy that will affect people’s lives.

            Trump is on record saying many vile and vulgar things and women have accused him of doing vile and vulgar things.

            Only Trump is in a position to make policy that affects people’s lives.

            Stop trying to pretend that there isn’t a difference there.

          • LFOldTimer

            Musical artists influence ATTITUDES of young people.

            When they use vulgar descriptions of women it influences others to do the same. Young people listen to that garbage and mimic it. Why don’t you and the feminists protest that?

            Trump is not proposing any policies that degrade women. Trump had a female campaign director. Her name is Kellyanne Conway. And now she is a White House executive with the title of Counselor to the President. So Trump actually promotes and honors women with high-ranking positions on his staff. But, of course, you would overlook that. Wouldn’t you?

            The Trump haters aren’t protesting for women’s rights. They’re protesting because they are progressive feminist liberals and are mad someone with XY chromosomes lost to Trump.

          • justanon

            Trump and the Republican congress are going to be awful for women and they know it. From the defunding of the ACA to his gag order on our scientists, his policies are already shaping up to be a disaster not just for women, but for everyone.
            Trying to pretend that Kellyanne Conway shows that Trump is good for women is just pathetic, that’s like pointing out that Hitler liked his dog.
            Only someone completely clueless about women’s issues would put forth such a weak argument.

          • LFOldTimer

            Oh nonsense. Now you’re just making stuff up for the dramatization effect. ACA is a proven failure for anyone who is forced to buy Obamacare insurance. Premiums and deductibles are skyrocketing. And they can’t even keep their own doctors. No scientist is being gagged. Trump just wants to prevent more fraudulent data on global warming from getting published that misleads the public.

            Comparing Kellyanne Conway to a dog is both vulgar and degrading to women. You sure have some nerve to accuse Trump of being sexist.

          • justanon

            Actually, no the ACA was not a failure, it was just dragged down by conservatives who wanted Obama to fail and the country-be-d*mned.
            Access to good quality healthcare is not just important to women, but all americans. That’s why the republicans having eight years to come up with a replacement for the ACA, haven’t. They only know how to tear down.
            A gag order by any other name is still a gag order. If Obama had done it republican heads would’ve exploded.
            I did not compare Kellyanne to a dog, I guess metaphors are too complex for you. To put it in more simple terms, doing one good thing doesn’t absolve one of all the bad things one does. Get it now?

      • justanon

        Didn’t Trump’s ex-wife swear in a deposition that he raped her? Didn’t a woman come forward and say Trump raped her when she was 13 and threatened to kill her family if she didn’t keep quiet and wasn’t this claim backed up by another woman?
        Doesn’t Trump have business dealings all over the mid-east with plans to expand his hotel chain there?
        Why the selective outrage LF?

        • LFOldTimer

          An ex-wife claiming that her former husband committed a crime? Gee, how unusual. Was Trump criminally investigated for r*pe? Why not?

          Why do all those women wait 10 to 30 years after the fact to claim that Trump r*ped them – during his campaign for President? Don’t you find that suspicious, justanon?

          If you were a woman and someone r*ped you – would you report it immediately or wait 10 to 30 years?

          Trump is a businessman. Everybody knew that when he ran for office and voted him to be our 45th President. Get over it.

          Don’t insult our intelligence.

          • justanon

            Didn’t Clinton’s accusers also wait years to bring allegations?

            Trump pulled a big con and some fools bought the snake-oil. Too bad they will never have the brain cells or the integrity to acknowledge it.

          • LFOldTimer

            No. Paula Jones complained a short time after she was assaulted and was ignored until she filed suit that resulted in Bill Clinton paying her $850,000.

            The Monica Lewinski scandal was exposed just after the affair.

            You don’t answer my questions directly. You only circumvent and deflect. I actually answer your questions.

            Trump is no angel. But in comparison to Bill Clinton he walks on water.

            The libs and feminists voluntarily swallow Clinton’s snake oil without a complaint.

          • justanon

            Actually Paula Jones kept quiet for three years (and the court dismissed the harassment lawsuit before trial, on the grounds that Jones failed to demonstrate any damages) and his affair with Monica was consensual.
            But again, all of that is old news and right now we have a mentally ill, pervert in the White House who will be deciding policy and that is what women and men were protesting/sounding the alarm about on Saturday.

          • LFOldTimer

            Why would Clinton settle with Jones for $850,000 if he did not s*xually violate her? Because he felt generous and she needed the money?

            Monica was a 22 year old intern about a 3rd Clinton’s age when he used his presidential influence (as a married man) to seduce her in the Oval Office. What a pig!!! And then he lied about it to the American people on national TV and perjured himself in court over it, losing his law license as a result!!! WHY NO FEMINIST PROTEST AGAINST BILL CLINTON AT THE TIME??? Oh, wait!!! I forgot!!! HE WAS A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT!!!! HA!

            Trump has done more in the first 6 days in office than Obama did in 8 years. Today he blocked all federal funds to sanctuary cities and verified by executive order that the wall will get built and Mexico will pay for it!!!

            DEAL WITH IT!!!!

          • justanon

            He paid Paula Jones off because he wanted to get on with his presidency. Bill did not seduce Monica, it was a consensual relationship and she has been quoted saying so.

            But if you’re going to drag out the Paula Jones payment well, I’ve got a payment 25 times that high for you to defend.

            So just why would Trump pay 25 million dollars for fraud?
            I’ll tell you why, because not only is he a proven pervert, he’s also a crook!

            I think you’re going to need all the caps and exclamation points you can muster these next 4 years as you’ll have a lot of deflecting to do, ha, ha, ha.

          • LFOldTimer

            “He paid Paula Jones off because he wanted to get on with his presidency.Bill did not seduce Monica, it was a consensual relationship and she has been quoted saying so.”

            With that answer you’ve lost all credibility with me. You’ve resorted to silliness at a juvenile level.

            I choose to end our discussion.

          • justanon

            Yeah, when the facts don’t fit your ‘beliefs’ you just pack it in I a big huff.
            Of course, you support Trump, he’s you.
            If you were honest and interested in the truth you could look up Monica’s words yourself, but of course that would require integrity, something you and your POTUS both lack.

        • verifiedsane

          The socialist left is so desperate at this juncture, that they will invent any fake news they possible can; hoping beyond all hope that they will find something that will stick.

          This is taken directly out of the Saul Alinsky & George Soros playbook of creating anarchy and insurrection to further their flailing global socialist agenda.

          • justanon

            Ooooh, now you have us, Soros and Saul Alinsky. Yes, just trotting out those two names makes all-things-liberal illegitimate.

            You obviously inhabit the fever-swamps of the white-wing conspiracy nuts.
            That kind of ridiculous catch-all nuttery only plays in those fever-swamps, in the real world facts and legitimate argument carry the day.

          • verifiedsane

            “The fever swamps of white-wing conspiracy nuts” <—LMAO I have obviously hit a liberal soft spot to elicit such a response derived out of pure ignorance. Of course there isn't much left you can say in retort when your global socialist icons, and string pullers in Dumocratic party are brought into the conversation. The only thing you really have left is is pulling out the race card, lame attacks, and silly hats. It's obviously going to be a very long and hard eight year reality check for you….Have a nice day 🙂

          • justanon

            *Irony alert*

            The guy who only uses hysterical buzz-words and name-calling and who has nothing of substance to offer thinks my words are derived out of “pure ignorance”. That’s rich, but not surprising.

            Friend, that “soft-spot”, it’s between your ears.

          • verifiedsane

            **REALITY CHECK**

            Defensiveness, inaccuracy, and ignorance….looks like you have the dumocrat trifecta covered…time for this Tweedledee and Tweedledum liberal to go home, open another box of tissue, dawn your female genitalia hat, open a fresh package of Play-duh, and crawl into your safe space closet. 🙂 Are we having fun yet!

          • justanon

            Nope, not going anywhere. The one bright spot in this complete abomination of an administration will be watching Trump’s supporters twist and squirm as they try and defend this sh*t show.

            Like today, Trump inappropriately tweets about trade with Mexico and the President of Mexico called his bluff. Trump embarrassed himself and the office and was once again exposed for the buffoon that he is. And then they added to the disaster by suggesting that they’d slap a 20% tariff on imports from Mexico (to force them to pay for the wall), they were too stupid to realize that would be a tax on Americans. You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried, unbelievable.

          • verifiedsane

            Whine away card carrying Communist…It’s the Dums are the ones squirming and whining if you haven’t noticed. President Trump is keeping with policies and actions directly inline with what he promised America, and got him elected President.

            The Dums still don’t get it! YOU LOST! Deal with it! The nation has a new direction and agenda….all the nutty leftist propaganda, insurrectionist behavior, name calling, and protest/marches (that are organized/funded by the very same globalist elites liberals who have failed America for the past eight years and beyond) won’t change the current reality or the facts. The power has shifted right, and the pendulum has swung against socialist liberalism.

            So please keep up the fake news, communist rhetoric, and the ridiculous attacks…it will make no difference what so ever in the end.

            What it will do; is further cement support for conservative principles/values and for President Trump over the next eight years and beyond.

          • justanon

            You know you’re probably right, trump supporters won’t “squirm and whine” as they don’t have enough character or brains to even acknowledge the slightest blemish in their great hero. Frankly they should be embarrassed, but I get it now, trump supporters have no shame.

            No, they’ll be just like you, ignoring any uncomfortable truths and instead hide behind childish name-calling, big words they don’t understand and phony conspiracy theories.

            We’ll see how long reckless ignorance and lies can carry the day.

          • verifiedsane

            Trump voters didn’t vote for a Prophet, or for some fantastical flawless character…they voted for a new direction, a substantive leader, and for sound American principles..The election, whether you wish to accept this reality or not; was a rejection of the status quo, and the self serving and corrupt political establishment of the last few decades.

            When you come up with a perfect human being to place on the ballot; please come back here and present them for everyone to scrutinize! Until then, just keep touting away with all your baseless blunder and fake news stories. Thanks for your participation Comrade 🙂

          • justanon

            No democrat expect a “perfect human being” on the ballot, that has been the purview of republican’s all these years as they and they alone have persecuted personal failings.
            That’s why it is so amusing that they have embraced not only a philandering, admitted sex-offender, but also an ignorant, compulsive liar and mentally ill man as POTUS.
            You can’t get much more flawed than that.

          • verifiedsane

            The only response you have is continuing the dissemination of total falsehoods and propagandist foolishness…WOW, the gross ignorance you and the extreme Left demonstrate is just astonishing, and reflects a stunning national commentary on the sad state of the intolerant Left in this country today.

          • justanon

            Nothing I wrote was “propaganda” or false.

            Philanderer: There’s the infamous incident where trump brought his mistress to the same ski lodge that he and his family were at and his wife and the mistress had a cat-fight on the ski slopes.

            Sex-offender: trump is on tape saying he just “grabs women by the p*ssy, his ex-wife swore in a deposition that he raped her and more than a dozen women have come forward to say that trump assaulted them.

            Ignorant: There are numerous examples, but I don’t have to go back any further than yesterday to find one.
            “I am very proud now that we have a museum on the National Mall where people can learn about Reverend King, so many other things, Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is getting recognized more and more…”

            Compulsive liar: Again, no one would even attempt to claim that isn’t true. So many lies, but hey, the most recent notorious one is about the size of his inauguration crowd. The mall was half empty and did you see his parade? There was no one in the stands, lol.

            Mentally ill: The man’s a narcissist, again so many examples, but even just yesterday at his laughable Black History Month “speech” he again talked mostly about himself.
            “I’m proud to honor this heritage and will be honoring it more and more. The folks at the table in almost all cases have been great friends and supporters. Darrell—I met Darrell when he was defending me on television. And the people that were on the other side of the argument didn’t have a chance, right? And Paris has done an amazing job in a very hostile CNN community. He’s all by himself. You’ll have seven people, and Paris. And I’ll take Paris over the seven. But I don’t watch CNN, so I don’t get to see you as much as I used to. I don’t like watching fake news. But Fox has treated me very nice. Wherever Fox is, thank you.”

          • verifiedsane

            Should I have also named some your other favorites and heroes; Stalin, Marx, Mao, Lenin, Kim Jong-Il, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, & Josip Broz Tito, to name just a few….

          • justanon

            Did you just learn those names in middle school history class or was it a google search?
            The fact that your comment doesn’t correspond to anything that I’ve written here just reinforces my belief that your are a pimply faced, angry, boy who feels empowered by throwing verbal stones.
            Hate to tell you sonny boy, but for insults to have any heft, they have to be based somewhat in reality.
            Maybe when you grow up a little you’ll understand.

        • verifiedsane

          More liberal communist news network fake news…..what a surprise…

          • justanon

            Yeah, court documents have now joined your definition of “fake news”.

            Pretty soon the only “real news” will be whatever comes out of trump’s mouth. Not surprised that trump’s gullible and hate filled supporters wouldn’t find that troubling. This is how it begins.

            “The power to label ideas, events, groups, and individuals was central to N*zi propaganda efforts. Such labels made clear who were the heroes and who were the enemies. In the process, the N*zis defined themselves as the guardians of the “true” Germany and of the nation’s glorious past. The N*zis also found ways to suppress ideas that they believed contradicted National Socialist ideology. They organized public book burnings, censored newspapers, published lists of banned books and authors, and prohibited “offensive” artists from displaying their work…”

            https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-and-human-behavior/chapter-6/visual-essay-impact-propaganda

  • verifiedsane

    Soros funded the marches through 20-30 far left globalist organizations to the tune of 90 million dollars and counting….This is all just an organized Democratic party funded effort to De-legitimize the election, the President, and our Constitutional Republic. Talk about living in a constant and perpetual twisted state of complete denial.

    • Jacki Livingston

      Says the people who elected a d list pig celebrity and still hang Confederate flags off their trucks.

      • verifiedsane

        That’s some crazy far left global socialist Cool-aid your drinking….I understand, losing elections and the truth can be a tough & terrible thing to deal with…and to think, it’s just going get worse with the 2018 mid-terms… 🙂

        • Jacki Livingston

          By then, Trump will be impeached and imprisoned, till Pence pardons him, and Pence will be so bad that 2018 Midterms are going to look like the Red Wedding, for the GOP.. Not even Ryan will survive. Here, Todd Spritzer will be in jail, TRack out of office and OC will be part of the independent nation of California.

          • LFOldTimer

            Over the top butthurt.

  • PIFA123

    The second term this will all be under the bridge. All those illegal women will be gone and the legal ones will be working and have no time for this stupidity. These people have too much time on there hands. If they were off welfare or back where they belong legally there would be no or very little protest. Who does not want to be safer, have a job,have better health care, and less taxes? Oh, the ones getting this for free from the ones working and paying for them to have all this. Adios and not soon enough.

  • Rintrah

    I feel sorry for the daughters of Trump voters. Ugghh, hope they learn that Daddy’s grabbing is endorsed by our great leader.

    • LFOldTimer

      Trump said it. Bill Clinton did it. Hillary Clinton endorsed it by defending her s*xual predator husband and humiliating his female victims.

      • Jacki Livingston

        Trump has a longer list of victims than Bill Cosby and Bustamante combined.

        • LFOldTimer

          Who has the list? The Fake News? lol.

    • verifiedsane

      Is that all you got…LMAO

    • Jacki Livingston

      The true Trump zealots ignore how sleazy and disgusting that pitiful excuse for a man has always been. He’s vomit inducing.

    • Jacki Livingston

      Trump’s behavior with his own daughter makes my skin crawl.

    • verifiedsane

      I feel sorry for the children of the Regressive Fascist Left, who are learning real “Hate” under the disguise of a false inclusion doctrine and a dangerous intolerance agenda…

  • LFOldTimer

    What’s totally ironic is that the Democrat Party has always marketed itself as anti-war, anti-big business, anti-corruption, anti-establishment, etc…

    Hillary represented the very essence of war, big business (Wall Street), corruption (Clinton Foundation Fund) and establishment politics (pay to play). But the hypocrite progressives overlooked all her warts. Trump actually represents the opposite. He wants to disband NATO, stop being the world’s policeman, has not taken a dime from Wall Street, has attacked the pharmaceutical companies, and is considered to be the anti-establishment President who has NEVER HELD AN ELECTED POLITICAL OFFICE!

    Logic says that the Democrats should’ve supported Trump based on his platform and the historical political philosophy of the Democrat Party!

    The reason these woman are angry is because a sister with XY genitalia lost the election. They totally ignore the Clinton corruption machine, her Saudi Arabian (anti-women) money connections, her national security crimes, her lies under oath to Congress, her defense of a husband who is a proven sexual predator, her promotion of war that has killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians, etc…

    The progressive movement against Trump is hypocritical and disingenuous. It’s amusing to watch these phonies protest and throw rocks when their heroine Hillary lives in a glass house.

    • KenCoop

      Hillary lost. Get over it and move on.

      • Jacki Livingston

        We are. Kennedy/Obama, 2020. And California secession in 2018

        • LFOldTimer

          Caroline Kennedy and Mooshell Obama??? ha.

          I shot tea from my nose on that one!!!

          • I Teach

            I’m so glad I’m going outlive your ignorance and others of your ilk. The world will be a better place without you on it, dinosaur; you’re not contributing anything to society.

          • LFOldTimer

            I didn’t expect you to consider ‘truth’ as a contribution to society.

            Your generation should be prepared to live in decades of misery due to the aftermath of liberal policies that began with LBJ. Your generation will be slaves to big government. If you intend to actually work for a living they’ll tax you into the poor house to pay for all the freeloaders.

          • verifiedsane

            Here we go again, another so called tolerant liberal showing their true hate filled colors…It’s not LFOldTimers fault that your party lost the election, or that you didn’t get a last place participation trophy. The ignorance and poison spewed by the so called party of inclusion never ceases to amaze me. I teach; do you act like this in your class room? that genuinely is quite concerning, if not down right scary!

    • Jacki Livingston

      On that front, I agree. Hillary was a mistake. If this were just Rubik or Cruz just politics? I would be fine. But Putin’s boyfriend, a vicious, sick, twisted predator sociopathic, criminal racist, hate monger with no moral compass? No. This filthy excuse for a man is not my president, and he never will be. Someone has to have some basic standards. This is Hitler junior. No way.

      • LFOldTimer

        If you’re typing behind a computer in the USA Trump is your President. You may not like it. But regardless, Trump is your President. Otherwise you’re in deep denial.

        Putin and Trump have never met personally before. So your claim has no validity.

        The adjectives and nouns you use to describe Trump are baseless and appear to illustrate a butthurt tantrum.

        When people invoke Hitler in a debate in general they’re throwing manure at the wall and got nothing.

  • Stephen Masek

    Will they be so filled with hate four years from now when we have a better economy, more security, and more freedom? Who but someone filled with hate could want the Criminal Clinton instead of our wonderful President Trump? Of course, the illegals will complain, but they are cowards, breaking into the USA rather than having the revolution they need to make Mexico, El Salvador and so forth free and prosperous. We need mandatory universal use of E-Verify immediately, with enormous fines for employing illegals.

    • KenCoop

      That assumes things will be better? I’m betting they will be worse. When that happens will you still be a Trumpette supporter.

      • Jacki Livingston

        Of course they will. It’s like the effing zombie apocalypse with that lot.

    • Jacki Livingston

      First of all, it isn’t hate. Second of all he is a) not my President and b) not wonderful. Donald Trump is America’s Hitler, already using first days in office to hurt middle class, women and the poor. We will not fall for this criminal scum and his alternate facts. Every word he says is a lie. Watch the videos of inauguration. The way he behaved, even to his wife and little boy, was disgusting. I don’t want to see him beaten in four years. I want to see him in jail next to Todd Spritzer within six months.

    • Judy Curry

      Hate???? 95%, if not more, of the signs were positive messages of love, inclusion, and solidarity. The SA Police estimated 20,000 joyfull people coming together to support each other’s causes…….Plus a few really funny ones that quoted Donald’s own words. Actually, I was an enthusiastic Bennie supporter. As for people coming to this country illegally, many are escaping deadly conditions that our government has created by installing brutal dictators that doing the bidding of our corporation. Hate is what the right wing promotes in spades!

      • LFOldTimer

        Yeah, like Madonna’s speech was a message of love. ha.

        • Judy Curry

          Madonna was th exception, not the rule and I didn’t like her speech either.

          • verifiedsane

            That is just not true, it was the Soros loving (so called feminist, though there is very little feminine about these vile hate mongers) as one celeb after another stood up spewing their hate and vulgar diatribe. But, then the Left believes vulgarity and threats are just fine when it’s coming from them. The abhorrent hypocrisy of these fringe radical leftist insurrectionist is truly laughable. No worries though: you did lose the election, Trump is your President, and the 2018 midterms will be another shot across the sinking global socialist movements ship’s bow; as to how America has awoken from their ominous slumber of the past decade, and will continually reject the lunacy and failure of the Left going forward.

          • Judy Curry

            You prove my point about where the hate is coming from. We won the popular vote, even in Orange County, no less, for the first time! The electoral college, voter suppression, corporate media, gerrymandering and massive corporate funding put Trump in office. Trump may hold the office, but he will never be considered a legitimate president by the majority in the country. He is coming into office as the most unpopular president in our recent history.

          • verifiedsane

            You are making me laugh with your continued ignorant absurdity…In our Constitutional Republic we have something called an electoral college. Our founding fathers showed great foresight and wisdom in adopting a process where large populated states and municipalities could not exert their populous will upon the majority of the nation. Did you skip US government in school or do they not teach this along with the liberal propaganda and indoctrination now a days. Now who benefited from huge corporate and special infusion of money & influence peddling in this election? It was Hillary and her gang of corporate thieves that filled her coffers with upwards of 1 1/2 billion dollars. Talk about ignoring the obvious, you are so brained washed by the MSM, that you have forgotten that most us in the citizenry can think and make decisions for ourselves. Our government was not formed as a socialist brand of a popularity contest after all. You are either a fool, or just plain ignorant to the facts is your one sided big government fantasy world. Have nice day 🙂

          • LFOldTimer

            More Fake News!

            Hillary outspend Trump by 2 to 1. All the major lobbyist groups, trade unions and public unions – AND WALL STREET – backed Hillary. Not Trump. Hillary was the shill for BIG BUSINESS!

            The corporate media did everything possible to sabotage Trump’s candidacy – both in the GOP primary and in the presidential election. I guess you weren’t paying attention.

            WIKILEAKS exposed the Clinton and DNC crime sydicates. It exposed the truth. Truthful emails from the DNC, Podesta and the Clinton campaign.

            Read the news today. Trumps approval ratings after his executive orders shot up to 57%!!!! That doesn’t appear “unpopular” to me!

          • verifiedsane

            I would consider your ludicrous responses quite humorous; if it wasn’t for your present dire need to seek medical/physiological intervention for your obviously serious delusional behavior. When you live in a little leftist fantasy world, the coming reality is going to be quite traumatic for you.

  • LFOldTimer

    Trumps speaks of grabbing women during off-the-cuff locker room talk 10 years ago and all h*ll breaks loose on the feminist front.

    Hillary Clinton takes multi-$millions$ for her Clinton Foundation Fund from Saudi Arabia and other ME nations that mutilate, beat and kill women on a daily basis for how they look, speak, act or think – and all you hear from the feminists are crickets! lol. Phony, phony, phony!

    Then you have Bill Clinton who treats women like s*xual chattel (and has for years) and all these women are silent. No marches in the streets, no PussyHats. lol. Hillary even caught Bill ogling Ivaka at the Inauguration and gave him a look that could kill. There’s a video of it for all to see. You can’t change the spots on a lecher leopard!

    How is any rational thinking individual supposed to take these protests against Trump seriously when there’s so much dirt on the other side of the aisle that goes completely unnoticed by the media and the libs? Hypocrites!

    • KenCoop

      False equivalency. Nice try. Bill Clinton wasn’t on the ballot.

      • LFOldTimer

        His wife was. And she defended her s*exual predator husband while routinely trashing talking his female victims. The Clinton syndicate is a partnership.

        I noticed that you failed to address Hillary taking $millions$ from Saudi – a nation that defiles and denigrates women. And then she orchestrated one of the biggest US weapon sales to Saudi – $29 billion worth of US made fighter jets. lol. Quid-pro-quo warmonger Hillary.

        Rah rah rah for the home team!

        • KenCoop

          Hillary isn’t president. She lost. Get over it and move on.

          • LFOldTimer

            I guess reading isn’t your forte.

            In my previous comment I explained why Trump won and Hillary lost.

            No false equivalency. Only facts.

          • KenCoop

            HIllary is a non issue. I guess current events are not your forte. Her activities are a moot point since she lost.
            Get over it, and move on.

          • LFOldTimer

            You said Bill Clinton was not on the ballot.

            I said Hillary Clinton WAS on the ballot.

            That’s not false equivalency.

            That’s the truth.

            How do you like the back to back executive orders signed by Trump? He’s done more in 3 days than Obama did in 8 years!

            TPP is history. Isn’t that what you liberals wanted?

          • KenCoop

            As is your custom you attempt to deflect. EO’s are not the topic.

    • Jacki Livingston

      Bill was not running. What happened to the GOP? They used to have morals and ethics and values. Someone like Trump would never have survived. Not a huge HRC fan. But I would have voted for Elmo over Trump/Pence. Ethics, morals, common sense, human decency….they fail on every level. How did we sink this low?

      • LFOldTimer

        Trump is a saint compared to Hillary, Bill and 85% of those seated in Congress.

        In case you haven’t figured it out yet – there is no ethics in politics.

        The democrats just have massive butthurt because they lost the executive office, the Senate and the House.

        Sore losers!

        • Jacki Livingston

          That is not what this is about, and thinking like that is why the 2018 elections will be a bloodbath for the GOP.

          • LFOldTimer

            Sure they will.

            Just like the democrats were going to retain the Senate and capture the House in 2016. lol.

            The American people have spoken. The democrats slipped on a banana peel as they were ushered out the door.

  • verifiedsane

    Nice censorship move VOC, monitoring and blocking comments of selected critics…journalistic integrity is definitely not one of VOC best qualities…but as a documented & evidenced distributor of leftist propaganda and fake news, this really must make VOC’s uncle Fidel Castro very proud….. 🙂

  • LFOldTimer

    Trump won 30 states. Hillary won only 20. The people have spoken. Trump is the 45th President of the United States. Get over your butthurt.

    Conservatives can accept it when their candidate loses a presidential election. The libs can’t. They throw tantrums and wear PussyHats. lol.

    What’s to protest? Trump has been in office for one day. lol. So far he’s done a fantastic job!

    Crooked Hillary lost and will never have a chance to be president again. Good riddance. She can devote full-time to keeping a close eye on her sexual predator husband so he doesn’t assault any more women.

    The libs chose the wrong candidate. Blame yourselves!

    Deal with it!!!

    • Paul Lucas

      Get over it? Yo mean like how the GOP did when Obama won in 08? I think Mr Trump and the GOP deserve every bit of courtesy and respect they gave to President Obama.

      • LFOldTimer

        What fake news organization are you getting your information from?

        There were no Obama protests in 2009 like we see today from these disgruntled libs. What we saw today was a bunch of spoiled brats who can’t accept a loss.

        Conservatives gave Obama a chance until he started illegally invading and bombing more sovereign nations, droning school children in Pakistan and turning a blind eye to NSA as they illegally eavesdropped on our own citizens.

        Trump has been in office ONE DAY!!! What’s to protest???

        • Paul Lucas

          You cant over white trash with cheeto dust and expect it to smell rosy. Trump is a fraud and he probably own last his first term

          • LFOldTimer

            Speaking of frauds, don’t forget to mention Hillary and the DNC who colluded with the media to unethically influence both the Dem primary and the presidential election then blame the Russians for it. This is not speculation. it was proven by the DNC and Podesta emails exposed by Wikileaks.

            Then after it was proven that Hillary’s campaign was proven to have cheated Bernie Sanders by reviewing CNN debate questions in advance of the debate – Bernie Sanders still endorsed her for the presidency! lol. What sellout!

            Before you accuse other politicians of being frauds – look in the democrats backyard. It’s full of them.

          • verifiedsane

            Just more partisan acts of casting stones, baseless blather, and fear mongering. You do realize your party lost the election? Just maybe you can back here in four to eight years & post your critique by adding in the realm of reality, and some actual evidence to go along with your jingoistic rodomonrade.

          • Paul Lucas

            Like Ive said before, Im going to give Trump the same respect and deference that was given to Obama. For four years straight you get to have a taste of your own medicine until that cheeto dust covered piece of white trash is out of the white house..

          • verifiedsane

            Go for it…it will be entertaining to the watch the Dems bottom out in 2018 when losing record numbers of seats in the Senate…

          • Jacki Livingston

            Remember when they called the Obama girls monkeys and said they hope they were assaulted?

          • verifiedsane

            That’s just shocking! I just filed complaint with PETA…no one should abuse animals like that….:)

          • Jacki Livingston

            I say the same about Barron, and the Obama girls…the kids should be off limits, and that is beneath contempt, and not the least bit funny.

        • I Teach

          Did you completely forget all the Tea Party protests in 2009? All the birther crap? Way to be willfully ignorant.

          • LFOldTimer

            The Tea Party protested mostly neo-con RINO Republicans.

            Any Tea Party protests against Obama after he won the Presidency in 2008 were a mere blip on the radar screen compared to all the sore-loser butthurt we saw yesterday.

            Way to be willfully ignorant.

          • I Teach

            An old geezer like you can Google “tea party obama” and see that there was a load of whiny snowflakes (like yourself) questioning the presidency.

            Also, you’re not a fan of women’s rights? Women’s March, not Trump March.

            Using my insult back at at me? Aw, did I trigger you?

          • LFOldTimer

            You attempted to float the claim that the TeaParty engaged in similar protests to what we saw yesterday. More fake news from the left!!! lol.

            Why don’t these same women protest Hillary for taking millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia and other ME nations that mutilate, beat, torture and kill women every day of the week for the way they dress, talk, act and think? Hmmm? Oh, I forgot. Hillary is a Democrat and above criticism! lol.

            Why don’t those same women protest Hillary’s sexual predator husband Bill who has a history of assaulting women and using his political power to seduce young interns who are young enough to be his daughter? Why don’t they protest Bill for his extramarital affairs? Why don’t they protest Bill for using the Oval Office as his den for his s*xual adventures with interns???

            Hypocrites!!!

          • @Dan Chmielewski
          • LFOldTimer

            You missed the point.

            The Tea Party didn’t protest Obama on the day after his inaugurations in 2009 or 2013. Not one video you posted showed otherwise.

            The Tea Party held protests here and there – but small protests that didn’t come close to what we saw on Friday and Saturday against Trump.

            And the Tea Party protested RINOS like the Bush Administration and local RINO legislators. The libs never protest other dems.

            Trump just killed TPP with an executive order. Many libs wanted TPP stopped. Do you think the libs will give Trump credit for killing TPP? NOPE! They’ll continue to greatly exaggerate the negatives and ignore the positives. The essence of FAKE NEWS!

          • Judy Curry

            TPP was dead in the water before Trump came into office. It was dead because so many of us activists were were hammering our reps on the issue, not Trump. He will take all the credit, as usual, though.

          • LFOldTimer

            Are you joking?

            TPP was Obama’s baby.

            And it would have sailed through Congress since 90% of the Senate and House are in the corporation’s back pockets.

            Trump had the power to kill it. And kill it he did!

          • Judy Curry

            President Obama and the Republican Party supported TPP, but the complete Progressive Democratic Caucus; as well as, some of your Tea Party people were very much against it. Like I said, Trump is an opportunist and will take credit for whatever he can get away with. Trump’s billionaire cabinet appointments prove that point. He ran on being a progressive and now he has nominated corporate raiders to offices that would privatize Medicare, Social Security, Public schools, and all public services. He also nominated several Goldman Sachs executives, the same people he railed against Hillary Clinton for colluding with. I don’t have to look far for that liberal. I know so many wonderful liberals, and am so proud to be one. Please don’t think that you can define me.

          • verifiedsane

            You must teach kindergarten, because you have shown history, government, and civics are not your strong suit..The tea party arose because the establishment rino right wasn’t listening to their own constituents. I guess you have selectively forgotten about the IRS targeting non-profit Conservative groups and causes in a illegal political witch hunt.

            But, since you wish to bring up the birther movement. Did you happen to know that leading cause of death in America is abortion. That over 1 million innocent unborn children that have no voice are killed each year in America by these so called loving tolerant liberal feminist profiteers. Did you also know that these same so called tolerant leftest hypocrites also turned away pro-life and similar women’s groups and individuals from these (as we now know, were Soros funded) marches for just happening to be voicing differing opinions and views. You wish to point fingers and yell ‘IGNORANT”, You and your kind are just another example of why America voted the Democrats and failure out of power.

            So have fun with your funny hats running around in the streets shouting out lunacy while using your first amendment rights for the next eight years; because that is what your Party has been relegated too, “kicked to the curb” as they say. 🙂

        • Jacki Livingston

          Bull, they burned him and hanged him in effigy. Puhleeze. I have the photos.

          • LFOldTimer

            Burned who in effigy? Bernie? So what? Every major candidate in a presidential election is burned in effigy. It’s the American way. As if Trump wasn’t burned in effigy so many times I couldn’t count them on both hands.

            But Trump won and Hillary lost. That’s all that really mattered.

          • Jacki Livingston

            Obama, after the election after lynching.

          • LFOldTimer

            So are Americans only allowed to burn white political candidates in effigy?

            When was that law enacted?

          • verifiedsane

            I burned my souvenir vulva hat in effigy

          • Jacki Livingston

            Gee, I’m sure it suited you so well.

      • Jacki Livingston

        Exactly. Talk about snowflakes.

    • @Dan Chmielewski
      • LFOldTimer

        You missed the point.

        We realize there were small Tea Party protests here and there several years ago. But nothing like what we saw on Friday and Saturday, particularly protesting a President who was just sworn into office on Friday.

        Trump just signed an executive order today to cancel US participation in TPP. Many libs opposed TPP. But you’ll NEVER hear them applaud Trump for his executive order dumping TPP.

        And you never heard the media attacking Obama right after his inauguration like they’ve been attacking Trump for the last 3 days. The media only wants to embarrass Trump. They’ll never give credit where credit is due.

        The Tea Party protested RINOS as well as progressive lib politicians. I know. I observed Tea Party protests that targeted Bush and his administration, as well as other local RINO legislators. The Tea Party didn’t discriminate. They targeted Republicans too!

        • KenCoop

          That’s right. Nothing like what we saw on Saturday.

          More reminiscent of the Civil Rights and anti-war marches of the 60’s.

          This movement is just getting started.

          • LFOldTimer

            Lots of sore losers who can’t accept defeat.

            That’s what you saw on Saturday.

            On Friday you saw a bunch of typical Soros funded violent subversive democrats!

          • Lori

            @LFOldTimer:disqus . In your first comment on this post you questioned why people marched. Why are you questioning that? You seem a little ” over the top butthurt.” We live in a country where people have the right to protest anything peacefully. No matter who is serving in office there are always people behind the white house, camped out, protesting something so who cares? It’s their right, live and let live.

            I was anti-HRC and didn’t march, but I give the organizers and participators credit for the mere fact that even though the turnout for these marches nation wide was massive there wasn’t a single act of violence or any arrest in what a lot of commenters are claiming were “hate filled” crowds. You said “conservatives can accept it when their candidate loses a presidential election” and then chastised someone for claiming that the tea party people protested Obama’s win yet further in the comments you totally backpedalled and admitted there were “small tea party protests.” You’re conveniently forgetting or choosing to minimize what happened after Obama was elected. The “over the top butthurt” conservatives who you claimed accept when their candidate loses didn’t accept Obama as their President. They didn’t march or protest peacefully. They opted to riot, hang nooses, vandalize property and light Obama lawn signs on fire.

            How quickly people forget that instead of accepting Obama as their President “over the top butthurt” conservatives who you claim accept election results (led by Trump) began questioning the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency and demanding that Obama produce a birth certificate. Funny how they felt Obama should have to disclose his birth certificate yet now that the shoe is on the other foot, Trump doesn’t feel he should have to produce his tax returns? The current President himself is guilty of not accepting an elected President so why do you accept people to accept him? He set that standard and made that bed so now he has to lay in it.

            When people commenting called you out on your #alternativefacts you said THEY missed the point and began deflecting attention away from THE POINT (TRUMP) by attacking Hillary and Bill who aren’t in office or relevant. Why not attack Carter he’s still alive and an irrelevant Democrat too.

          • LFOldTimer

            “We live in a country where people have the right to protest anything peacefully.”

            In response to Paragraph 1: Not questioning the right for Americans to protest. I question the motivation behind the women’s march on the day after Trump’s inauguration when none of them protested Bill Clinton, the proven sexual predator, or his wife Hillary who defended him and verbally abused her husband’s female victims – or Hillary accepting millions from Saudi and other ME nations that abuse, torture and even kill women who fail to meet the cultural standards of a male dominated society. Get it???

            In response to Paragraph 2: On Friday at the Inauguration there were multiple acts of violence: A limo was torches and the windows of multiple small businesses were smashed – in Seattle a Trump supporter was shot at the UofW and anti-Trump protesters tried to shut down a planned MILO presentation event by throwing bricks at those entering the auditorium, thus trampling on First Amendment. Throughout Trump’s campaign the Soros-funded liberals were violent obstructionists – even here in Orange County. Do you read the news?

            Both pre and post Obama election protests were nothing in comparison to
            the Trump protests, if you want to have an honest discussion and be
            factual.

            In response to Paragraph 3: There are still many unanswered questions about the legitimacy of the birth certificate Obama posted at the White House website. Did you watch the press conferences about the results of the birth certificate investigations conducted by the Maricopa Sheriff’s Dept? You should take the time to watch the videos. Follow the evidence. You might learn something.

            In response to Paragraph 4: Hillary and Bill are legitimate targets in the discussion since Hillary ran against Trump for President. It’s completely reasonable to describe how the Clinton’s were treated with kid gloves by the mainstream media while Trump was constantly trash talked, harassed, berated and defiled.

            In the end Trump won fair and square. The sole purpose of the women’s march was to protest the Trump presidency. Had Hillary been elected all those women would have been cheering and gloating over her – due to her XX chromasomal molecular structure, even though she has a history of promoting female s*xual predators and taking bribes from misogynist nations. Sexists to the bone.

          • Lori

            You’re still questioning what they chose to protest and not protest. Get it?

            Every conservative is upset about what these people were protesting about. It wasn’t about HIllary at all. Keep trying to deflect things by bringing up the Clinton’s. It wasn’t about them & their shortcomings it was about Trump’s policies. Get it?

            I didn’t bring up the inauguration protest because once again there was violence at the Obama inauguration and the Trump one. My point wasn’t about the peaceful protest and marches across the nation on Saturday. Do you see how you get things twisted?

            If you’re still stuck on Obama’s birth certificate after he served and completed two terms that’s useless worry about your current president’s tax returns and conflict of interest that’s relevant in the present.

            Also, just like you think there are unanswered issues pertaining to Obama’s birth certificate the left can say the same about the assertions you make about the Clintons. Again, worry about the present and what’s relevant now.

            For someone who questions whether I read the news, you must be living u get a rock if you think the media was soft if HRC or any other candidate for that matter! Get real! Every single candidate from Bernie to HIllary to the 14 Republican candidates ALL took a beating in the lead up the conventions and after. Not a single candidate was liked by the media or favored. Like you said, if you want to have an honest discussion BE FACTUAL!

          • LFOldTimer

            No, it wasn’t about Hillary. It was about the HYPOCRISY of protesting Trump when there has NEVER been open protests by the feminist against Bill Clinton, a s*xual predator, or his wife Hillary who defended him and impugned, insulted and defiled her husband’s female victims.

            It’s the HYPOCRISY of selective outrage.

            The violence at the Trump inauguration was widespread with cops everywhere in riot gear. There were NO cops in riot gear at Obama’s DC inauguration. Let’s be factual.

            I’m not stuck on Obama birth certificate. You’re the one who brought it up. I responded. There is clear forensic evidence presented by a bona-fide law enforcement agency that the birth certificated posted by Obama on the White House website was fraudulent and fake. Go watch the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Department presentations (there were 3) if you don’t believe me.

            If you don’t think that Trump took a disproportionate beating from the mainstream media during the GOP primary and the presidential election you must be wearing a blindfold and have plugs stuck in your ears.

          • Lori

            See, you’re still “over the top butthurt” that these people didn’t protest against Bill or HIllary. You seem selectively outraged about that but not about a Hypocrite president who refuses to divest from his business interest while serving in office to ensure there are no conflicts of interest. What about the nepotism of appointing his son-in-law as one of his top advisors? It’s ok that we have a law about that which he’s choosing to ignore right? You keep deflecting away from Trump’s shortcomings and making him out to be some sort of victim.

            As I said BOTH inaugurations had violence and they had to have riot gear because of past precedent with how things went down during Obama’s. No matter how much you try to claim thing were worse this year, the FACT is that people’s houses were burned down after Obama was elected because they were pro-Obama. What pro-Trump people’s houses were burned? Why must we compare. Why can’t you admit both were bad? how do you not see that there is NO WINNER? Neither side wins America loses!

            It’s apparent you’re also still caught up on believing there was an issue with a two term president’s birth certificate since you’ve advised me to watch some video twice now. ONE law enforcement agency that had it in for Obama made a video? Give me a break! It must really bother you to believe there was an injustice there and he got to serve twice. Once again you deflect from the point that Trump demanded a document from Obama & now he’s not producing a document. That’s Hypocrisy!

            I don’t think Trump took more of a beating, but again, you want him to be the victim and win this too! All candidates took a lot of heat from the media but Trump chose to respond to it all on Twitter which made things worse for him. He added fuel to the fire, and brought the extra attention on to himself so he is not a victim. He asked for it so don’t claim he got hit harder.

            I don’t own a blindfold and there are no earplugs in my ears. I just choose to see things differently than you do from the delusion rock you live under. Deflect on!

    • Jacki Livingston

      He’s not my President, and never will be…ever. this isn’t about nuttier. You guys don’t get it. The people we wants to marginalize and victimize will NOT go back fifty years so that sad, fat, lazy white males can feel better about their failed lives. He schemed, cheated, lied, made promises he is already breaking and made his inauguration day a new federal holiday so union workers get a new paid day off. What a self serving sleaze. When I saw what he did to Melania, during the inauguration? I want to kick him in his wittle raisin nuts. What a dirtball.

      • LFOldTimer

        Unless you pack your bags and leave the country he is your president, like it or lump it.

        Oh, so now it’s a racial thing? White guys? ha. And they call Trump a bigot? ha.

        Did you happen to see sleazy Bill Clinton eyeball Ivanka??? ha. Hillary gave him a Darth Vader look! lol. What a lowlife lecher that man is. Can you say FAKE MARRIAGE??? ha.

        Bill Clinton makes Trump look like the Dalai Lama! lol.

        • Jacki Livingston

          I don’t have to accept or acknowledge him. I have no President until California completes the secession. Yes. He exploited the pickup driving, beer belly, no college and no tech guys who don’t want to compete with women and other races, who thought that they should be guaranteed twenty dollar an hour jobs because they are ‘real Muricans’. When they found out that isn’t true, they ended up in Mama’s basement with their Confederate flag on the wall (talk about you lost, so get over it!), with no girl, so all they can do is impotently sit on social media and chant about making Music great again. It’s pathetic.

          • LFOldTimer

            California is dependent on the Feds like a heroin junkie is dependent on his dealer. California won’t secede from anything.

            Generalize much???