• Jacki Livingston

    It’s called secession, Ms. Ward. CalExit has the votes, and the west is sick and tired of being over taxed and under represented. Trump succeeded in only one thing, and that was gathering the intelligent and sane people to the cause of true freedom. The United States is done…over. The fact is, the extremist right and loony left have created such a mess, no one can find common ground, anymore. California pays in 26 billion dollars a year to support the Trump states of dumb lemmings who want coal and gas, and don’t want to educate themselves or share the playground with the non-white kids.

    And, just in case you were wondering why I am a wee bit hostile? It is because numerous county employees, including myself, wrote to you in utter desperation, when you first rose to power, seeking help for patients in nursing homes around the OC, but notably in a facility under YOUR watch. We sent you proof of outrageous assaults, robbery and abuses to these helpless patients, and how County officials from Moorlach to Nelson to Spitzer were involved in covering it up, and that there was criminal enterprise going on. You could not be bothered to even reply. You are no different than every other useless politician in Orange County, and the country, and all you guys care about are photo ops with wolf dogs, or chicken dinners to raise money from whatever dirty business will write you a check. You had people DYING, on your watch, madam, and you refused to even look at the situation, and now it is ten times worse. You talk about your former inlaws. So what? I grew up in the redneck heart of stupidity in this country, namely, Oklahoma. It is no excuse. Now, Anaheim, like Garden Grove, is overrun with cash cow nursing homes run by scum, some are linked to organized crime, and people like Spitzer are violating the law to protect them. So the next time you go to a rally for the next office you seek, remember that you failed to do this job, and that when you blather about the GOP BS of “family values” and “less taxes”, you stood by and did NOTHING while the elderly, sick and disabled were being violated and abused. You did nothing while they worked with county officials to skim millions from the public taxpayer coffers. You did nothing while county employees were forced out of their careers, after they reached out in desperation to you. But you are not alone…you are not special. You are just one of dozens of useless politicians, feeding at the trough and ignoring those they swore to serve. The USA will be far better off when CalExit passes in 2018 on the ballot, and we narrow our focus to get rid of those who do nothing but promise everything.

  • Jacki Livingston

    Bobby Jindal is a moron.

    That being said…what is assimilation? Does everyone have to be the same? What is wrong with keeping your old country’s ways? I agree that if you want to live here, learn English. Cool. But this would be a boring place if we all looked and thought and acted and dressed and prayed the same. Assimilation is cultural genocide, and we did enough of that to the Native residents who were here, first.

  • Jacki Livingston

    Hopefully, after secession in 2018, we will be able to come up with a better system for the west.

  • Jacki Livingston

    The Orange County Bar Association is a cover group that protects the shadiest if its lot, and does absolutely nothing to uphold the law, or the dignity of the profession. I had a very bad attorney, once, who showed up at a deposition in an attorney’s office wearing cut off sweat shorts and a horizontal striped sweater from K mart, along with Orange crocs. The sweater did not cover his protruding gut. The man weighed in at five hundred pounds. He also would call opposing counsel and tell her every, single word that I said in confidence, trying to weasel good favor with county government by sandbagging my case.

    Add into that a complaint I filed against Todd Spitzer, who was notified in writing by myself and outside county counsel that he would be called to testify under oath, regarding my case, and about his knowledge of criminal practices inside the agency and connections to organized crime. He used his wife, Jamie, to weasel his way out of testifying. Judge Jamie Spitzer assigned herself to be judge on my case, then, when I protested, she assigned Louise Armstrong, who was Spitzer’s own law firm client, close friend and a woman quoted in the news as saying she “owed him her life”. Armstrong pushed through a settlement to protect Spitzer from testifying under oath, one that was unenforceable, not that the County intended to enforce it at all. Since then, I have written both judges letters and asked for hearings, trying to force the county to comply with their own settlement. This guy wants to be District Attorney, but hides behind the Judge robes and skirts of his own wife and client, and refuses to testify about his knowledge of known associates of organized crime using the nursing homes as a cash cow.

    As of today, nineteen months after the fact, the Orange County Bar Association has never responded to my filed formal complaints, nor have they called or written me about the charges about Toddy the Wondermutt. I think that speaks volumes about the lack of integrity and ethics of this organization.

  • verifiedsane

    Some of the professions rated below and trusted less than attorneys by the public; are politicians and the news media….a bunch of attorneys judging another attorney on their voiced opinion, is like flushing a toilet to find out what remains…who gives a flying duck…

    • Jacki Livingston

      The person I know in OC with the most integrity is an attorney named Susan Cyprien, so I cannot agree totally. But overall, Orange County lawyers fall into a few categories: Bootlickers, cowards, incompetents, political who$es and deadbeats. I rate the ones who are both lawyer and politico up there with child molesters and TV Megachurch Preachers, on my demon scale.

  • Cynthia Ward

    So…I did read the “apology” from the OCBA President, and it is not an apology so much as a statement that the leaders of the OCBA are terribly sorry that a few snowflakes got their knickers in a knot. And having read the actually President’s letter in full, rather than the cherry picked lines of his opponents, I can only say that there is indeed nothing to apologize for, and while I am not a member of OCBA, I will look for future letters from this leader. Keep in mind I am not a lawyer (nor have I ever played on on TV) but I liked what he had to say, and I cannot fathom someone taking offense, if they actually read the piece in its full context. http://www.ocbar.org/Portals/0/pdf/oc_lawyer/2017/201701presidentspage.pdf

    Mr. Baroni’s message praises those Americans who have fought to make America a place of freedom since its inception, and goes on to commit his own Presidency of the OCBA to further the work of speaking out against murders of Police officers, a crisis which has escalated dramatically in recent years, while stopping the scourge of human trafficking, and protecting those with disabilities that deserve our support. I have no personal contact of any kind with anyone involved in this inter-agency squabbling, but I cannot help thinking those offended by Mr Baroni’s words were seeking something they could point to as an offense. Did Mr. Baroni recently gain the OCBA Presidency in a highly contested battle in which his accusers were part of an opposing faction? Just curious.

    The ONE section of the message that seems to launch the word bombs back into the author’s face is a statement about SOME immigrants failing to express gratitude to the nation offering them asylum. That is a true statement of fact, and is not a condemnation of ALL immigrants, nor does the author claim that ALL immigrants are ungrateful miscreants intent upon the destruction of America. Mr. Baroni simply states the obvious, that today we see SOME immigrants in higher numbers than at any other period of our nation’s history who come to America while seemingly hating America and Americans. Can these detractors really argue against SOME (but not ALL) immigrants arrive, not seeking the usual opportunity for a better life, but demanding handouts and entitlement attitudes as though America owes them something for coming to America? Having my own personal family experience with SOME (not ALL) Eastern European immigrants with that very hostile attitude, I can say yes it DOES happen, it is not limited to any one segment of our immigrant population, and it seems to be on the increase. And sadly, the bad attitude of SOME immigrants bringing that entitlement mentality to their new nation ends up damaging the assimilation experience of others who ARE simply seeking a better life and a chance to earn their way in their new home. How is it racist or xenophobic to point to this very real FACT?

    LFOldTimer is correct, and many of us are TIRED of those who cannot form an appropriate debate response and choose instead to silence or demonize those they disagree with. Rather than air the OCBA’s familial dirty laundry in this quasi-public space in an effort to silence the OCBA’s new President, why not put those law degrees to work and discuss how there is not ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of immigrants behaving badly toward their new American host country and therefore Mr. Baroni must be incorrect? Good luck. To do so one would have to overlook some incredibly bad, incredibly anti-American behavior exhibited by protestors during the recent Presidential election, and erase images that were broadcast on national media. Lacking the ability to dispute that SOME immigrants do indeed arrive in the US with a massive chip on their shoulders, one that is dragging down the hard working arrivals who want nothing more than to seek the American Dream, the loyal opposition of Mr. Baroni simply published unsubstantiated character attack against their organization’s new leader, ironically creating (or increasing) the very divisions they hang around the neck of Mr. Baroni. Sadly, those detractors also lifted the one segment of his message out of context, and simply took from the whole letter a negative viewpoint as a black and white all inclusive statement, while ignoring the genuine patriotism and praise for the heroes that made America the shining beacon it has been for centuries. That is just plain sad.

    If this one line of verbiage is ALL that these otherwise educated professionals are able to take away from Mr. Baroni’s heartfelt message of hope for America’s future, and his commitment to a better OC in his first letter as a new OCBA President, then I feel sorry for them. More importantly I will keep them in mind should I be in need of legal assistance in the future, because I want someone able to see the big picture, and not focus so exclusively on their own narrow views that they miss the larger message. To that end, if Mr. Baroni is forced to attend “bias training” I hope his accusers have their butts parked in the seats next to him, because they have missed the message in their hyper focus and self determination to be upset with their new President. Like I said, did he recently beat one of them or a friend of theirs in a contested seat?

    There are SO MANY very real issues to be alarmed about today, frankly this is “First World Problems 101.” Rather than manufacturing false offense at an out of context statement, I hope these detractors spend time searching for something not only to be bugged about, but maybe something they can commit time and energy to making the world a better place. What a concept.

    • Jacki Livingston

      I am not going to bother educating you on the FACTS that most immigrants, especially illegal ones, are not eligible to any handouts. I will tell you that the overwhelming majority of people with their hand out are white, middle class, undereducated, Red state, Trumpian sorts. Another fantasy of the regressives bites the dust.

      Thank GOD that 2018 will bring us CalExit and the secession of the West from Dumbeffistan. California will lead OR, WA, HI, NV and CO out of this failed experiment of a sociopathic nation, and we will finally be able to control our own destiny, instead of being locked into the failure of a former democracy, now democrazy, that is intent of destroying every good thing it ever stood for. And, when the West is free, we will be able to come up with humane, inclusive and intelligent immigration laws that encourage true diversity and welcome people who contribute. The original ideals of the fractured, dying thing that is this nation might actually be realized.

  • K2KR

    Give me a break. This column complains about stereotypes but uses the most worn out stereotypes of the decade, that of comparing anybody with whom you don’t agree to nazis and racists.

  • LFOldTimer

    If sworn licensed attorneys who are supposed to be the biggest proponents of law & order can’t see the difference in immigration patterns between what’s happening today and a generation or two ago – we’re all in big trouble. For God’s sake – take your blinders off!

    Whenever some leader of an organization offers a politically incorrect opinion on current events (even though it might be truthful) the knee-jerk reaction from the opposing side is to pummel him or her into submission and force an apology. It takes an incredibly strong-willed person to stand their ground and refuse to bend.

    Look what happened to Milo Yiannopolous at UC Berkeley. The new trend in America is to shut the opposition down.

    Once again, this opinion piece does not distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. That’s disingenuous. None of us have any problems with those who enter the country legally and maintain their legal status while on US soil. We welcome those who play by the rules with open arms. So stop commingling the two. Be frank and direct in your communication.

    Illegal immigration damages the social and financial structure of the nation. And it harms prospective legal immigrants who obey the laws and, as a result, are forced to stand in line for 10 years or longer because illegal immigrants steal the jobs that legal immigrants could work.

    Why aren’t attorneys writing op-ed pieces protesting sanctuary cities and those who violate our immigration laws? You’re officers of the court and are sworn to respect, honor and uphold our laws. Support your professional code!

    • David Resendez

      You speak utter non-sense. Two glaring examples: (1) none of us have problems with people that enter legally (alternative fact that requires you to remove your blinders) & (2) racist and xenophobic cards get played (these comments are exactly what the author says they are racist & xenophobic).

      • LFOldTimer

        Care to expound on (1)?

        Even the hardcore anti-immigration groups welcome LEGAL immigrants who play by the rules of law and enter invited through the front door as opposed to sneaking in uninvited through the back door. Just like citizens expect of immigrants in any civilized nation.

        Your statement is vague and confusing.

        Regarding (2):

        Your apparent definition of “racism & xenophobic” as it relates to Mr. Baroni’s column dilutes the actual meaning and impact of the words. You’re not doing any favor to those who have actually been victims of racism or xenophobia.

        Mr. Baroni made it clear that he values immigrants who assimilate into our culture and show gratitude and respect for the opportunities and freedoms that America offers.

        How is that racist or xenophobic?

        Put a lid on the hyperbole. Let’s have a real discussion minus the emotional stuff.

        • Jacki Livingston

          I have to disagree. They don’t want Muslims to immigrate legally. That is wrong. It is racist and xenophobic and you know that.