Venegas: My Plan to ‘Be Bold’ for Women’s Day

The Powers that Be declared March 8th International Women’s Day way back in the early 1990s. Maybe I was too busy in high school back then to take notice. But now, as a working mom of three and wife to an equally hard-working husband, I am so glad that I can celebrate my “achievements” by walking out of work, ignoring my kids, and “take bold action for gender parity” as Women’s Day organizers describe as the purpose of this special day.

Woo-hoo!

Why limit this responsibility-free day to March 8th? Why not make it a month-long celebration? We women deserve it! My husband might not appreciate that, but then again, he really needs to learn how to keep his oppressive, patriarchal tendencies in check.

How am I planning to #BeBoldForChange this month? I’ve taken this handy “Take Action” form on the Women’s Day website as my guide and here’s what I have come up with so far:

I’ll challenge bias and inequality

I’ll challenge bias by challenging the growing Leftist bias against free speech that has infected our colleges and universities, a culture which leads to faculty declaring President Trump supporters as terrorists and right-leaning intellectuals to be shouted down and bullied off of campus.

I’ll fight against the inherent inequality in our public school system that forces too many poor and minority children to go to failing schools and prevents parents from choosing a better school simply because they can’t afford to move to a better neighborhood.

I’ll campaign against violence

I’ll campaign against all forms of violence against women, especially those pre-born girls and boys in the wombs, by devoting my energy to giving women authentic healthcare services that empower them to choose life, whether through adoption or parenting.

I’ll celebrate women’s achievement

I’ll forge women’s advancement by celebrating women who choose to stay at home and women who choose to work because in both cases they are doing so based on what is in the best interest of their families. Too often, the world measures women’s achievements in dollars and percentages – wage inequality, how many women hold executive jobs, or other political office.

But isn’t it what women produce as a result of the uniqueness that makes us women, our fertility and our children, the most powerful and valuable assets women offer the world?

I’ll advocate for workplace policies and patronize employers that give working women (and men) flexibility, paid time off, and other family-strengthening benefits because they acknowledge the importance of strong families in our society and the value of keeping good employees satisfied.

I’ll champion women’s education

I’ll champion women’s education by promoting policies that give parents the greatest amount of freedom to choose the best educational path for their child.

I’ll work at the local level to encourage school officials to expand public school choices for parents by approving more public charter schools so that parents can choose what educational resources are best for my child. Why should children be trapped in failing schools simply because of where they live?

Do you think this agenda will be endorsed by the “Day Without Women” protest organizers?

Being pro-free speech, pro-life, pro-family, and pro-school choice are an anathema to the progressivist brand of feminism that Women’s Day leaders embrace. I guess that should not surprise anyone when you look at the holiday’s origin. Russian Communist Party founder Vladimir Lenin declared Women’s Day in 1911, a holiday primarily celebrated in socialist and communist-controlled countries until the 1970s.

On second thought, maybe I’ll sit this ‘protest’ out. Instead, this month, I’ll get up, go to work, come home and make dinner for my husband and kids. My colleagues depend on me, and I on them. My family needs me, and I don’t want to be without them. Reasons enough to ‘be bold.’

 

Clare Venegas is president of Obria Medical Clinics, which operates five reproductive healthcare clinics in Orange and LA counties, and the former executive director of the Lincoln Club of Orange County.

 

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  • Bill Colver

    Miss Venegas misses the point. All the things she believes are valuable are due to the feminists she derides.

    She has choices now because of those women. Something she would not have had before them.

    • verifiedsane

      Not true…fake news!

      • Bill Colver

        Lol. How so?

      • OCservant_Leader

        Bill is on point.

        Ms Venegas is able to work due and limit her family (thanks to birth control) to only (# children) due to Feminists.

        I think Ms Venegas should walk her talk…stop working outside the home and produce a child every year until her uterus falls out.

        I would of actually respected her more if she wasn’t being a hypocrite.

        • verifiedsane

          That was just precious..the duplicity of appearing to support radical political feminism as long as it fits into a very narrow construct of politically correct thought and action…and then going about personally attacking Clare Venegas “a women”, for presenting a different, personal, and alternative view…

          obviously, you miss the hypocrisy….you have presented zero evidence and made a fundamental error by making the unsupported assumption that Ms. Venegas’s personal views and chooses can be directly or indirectly attributed to the availability of birth control or the radical modern feminist movement (a political side show supported/funded by rich global cultural Marxist and the extreme socialist wing of the Democratic party).

          More of the infamous Dumocratic tolerance and inclusion on full display…

          • OCservant_Leader

            Feminism has nothing to do with a deep religious faith, involvement in church or family.

            It is about equity in the law.

            You are mixing apples and oranges and you usually know your fruit better.

          • verifiedsane

            Actually, some preeminent theological scholars have proclaimed that Jesus was the very first and beginning of the feminist movement…thus, spirituality has a deep historical role in feminism…though it plays an almost non-existent role in modern radical feminism…

          • OCservant_Leader

            Since when does 1 + 1 = 5?

            Leave my Jesus out of your thesaurus trickery!

            Now I AM offended.

          • questionauthority2

            Jesus in the discussion is valid if you are in a theological discussion, in fact one can cite the source (the Bible) if necessary. What happened to your begging for a discussion on Anglo-Saxon Property ownership? Oh no, offended, darn!

          • OCservant_Leader

            You and I already had the “Rock” discussion which has concluded our discourse on this topic.
            Thank you.

          • questionauthority2

            Actually, You had the ‘rock’ discussion with another commentator. Losing it a little, eh?

          • OCservant_Leader

            Oh really.

            Sniffing glue destroys brain cells -FYI

          • questionauthority2

            Oh… thanks for clarifying that.

          • verifiedsane

            1 + 1 = 5?

            1 set of triplets + 1 set of twins = 5 babies!

            1 + 1 = 5: 1 bike + 1 trike = 5 wheels

          • OCservant_Leader

            One, Two and Three
            I see Five RedCounty Boyz
            Blithering in the weeds…

            Baa

    • questionauthority2

      Actually, no one misses a point, when it is an Op-Ed.

      • Bill Colver

        This makes no sense. She’s allowed her opinion. That doesn’t mean it is beyond criticism.

        • questionauthority2

          Right, and you are a commentator under her article.

  • Jacki Livingston

    Oh, give me an effing break. Family values of conservatives, my Aunt Fanny. You are so full of it. You are “pro life” but pro torture at Gitmo, pro death penalty, pro cutting of lunch programs, poverty, education, meals on wheels, medical care for kids. Give me a break. You guys don’t have a single leg to stand on, because it is all just a lie. You care nothing for children, once born, until they are old enough to become cannon fodder in your wars for profit, then when they come home wounded, you write them off again. Just shut up…your lies are so obvious, even a fetus can tell.

    • LFOldTimer

      OMG. For the last 8 years it was Obama and the democrats who fomented more war and murdered hundreds of thousands of brown people in foreign lands that had no armies to speak of and were vulnerable to big bully America!!!

      It’s the democrats who are for pro-choice and murdering the unborn!!!

      It’s the democrats who have been deep in the pockets of Wall Street.

      Progressives need to look in the mirror once in a while! lol

  • LFOldTimer

    Women had it made until the feminists showed up. Dad would slave at work while mom stayed home, played with the kids and went shopping with her girlfriends. Then Gloria Steinem, et. al. raised their ugly heads and turned women into slaves by encouraging them to leave their children in day care centers and go work for “the man”. lol. More women are dying of stress related illnesses today than ever.

    You haven’t come a long ways, baby. You only joined the rat race.

    Next time watch out what you wish for! lol.

    • questionauthority2

      This is true, however, back then the cost of living was adjusted so that families could afford to do this set up w mom home and dad working one job. Now, look at what it takes to survive with 2 parents working more often than not more than one job, and then still remain low income according to financial scales! The cost of rent is outrageous, food, health insurance, etc. I wish it was a real choice women and men had in current time whether or not to choose to work or stay home with their children, but alas that is rare. Don’t forget the cost of unforgiving government student loans many of the young generation also grapple with along with high rent, let alone being able to afford to buy a home. The days of the 60’s entering the liberated ’70’s are now just a sweet memory of possibility from that “Bringing home the bacon, frying it up in a pan and never letting you forget your a man” woman’s era.

      • LFOldTimer

        Yes, but feminism was part of the cause for rising costs of living. A 2-income household has more money to spend than a 1-income household. The classic definition of inflation is “Too much money chasing too few goods”. And once we had so many more workers in the economy there was no turning back. If the women stopped working their household would fall behind other households economically and their standard of living would fall. Hence, another slave workforce was ingeniously created. The Ozzie and Harriet life was much better for women. Let the man slave away 40-60 hours per week and “bring home the bacon” that was more than sufficient to provide a comfortable life for mom and the kids. Very very few women worked in my neighborhood when I was a kid – and I was raised in a very average middle class family. Mom could stay home with the kids and they could be raised in a very loving environment as opposed to being pawned off on a daycare center M-F 9-5. This added stability to the family and created well-adjusted children who, for the most part, became well-adjusted adults. Feminism really damaged the social structure of the country. Everybody made money but, in turn, the costs skyrocketed and we’ve seen a tremendous uptick in social (behavioral) problems in the population.

        I emphasize that feminism was only one part of the problem. Obviously there were many more contributing factors.

        • questionauthority2

          Same era growing up, yet my mother was ahead of her time (and Gloria’s) when she returned to work, then became a professor; without her many of the kids who grew up in daycare wouldn’t have the University education they have today. It is unfortunate that kids “end up in daycare”; however many families, like mine back in the 60’s had caring neighbors who watched those whose parents worked. I am leary of your comment that the feminism movement is to blame for the shift of cost of living and inflation. Times were bound to change, technology was aspiring, there was no way to control this change in American society, just short of wanting the pioneer days to never end either, we were destined to move on and grow; due to women having equal rights, is pretty much what you are placing blame on– why let women vote, right?

          • LFOldTimer

            Without feminism you wouldn’t see the exorbitant costs for a college education today. And kids from poor families aren’t barred economically from college. They get big government grants that pay for their tuition and room/board.

            America would have done fine without a huge upsurge of women in the workforce. All it did was drive up inflation and raise the REAL unemployment rates.

            The women’s suffrage movement and modern feminism are not even related to one another.

            Modern feminism preaches hatred for males and child neglect.

          • Jacki Livingston

            No, it preaches that you cannot fill anyone else’s needs if your warehouse is empty, so take care of yourself and your needs before you try to please anyone else. It isn’t hate for men, it is the exasperation that they think our purpose in life is to take care of them. They are not above us…they are beside us. Men need to grow up.

          • LFOldTimer

            Dear, consider a “day without men”. But men would never even consider orchestrating such ridiculous theater. That’s one way we are different. Both men and women have our strengths and weaknesses. Hormones dictate our behaviors. To deny that is to deny reality. Your female attitude is a perfect example of a female weakness. Selfishness. Men have our weaknesses too. But a completely different set of weaknesses than women. Until you can recognize those innate differences you will always be lost and blaming the other side for your own failings.

          • questionauthority2

            What? don’t you have a neat little knit hat to wear while strutting around? LOL

          • OCservant_Leader

            Not even close. Your facts are fake news.

            Feminism- is about “Equality”. That women are equal to a man in the eye of the law.

            Women are humans…not property.

            This is All Feminism means. Feminists are wives and mothers you morons.

            All the dragonian myths of feminists hating men & eating their young is just PR spin by chauvinists who are threatened by equality and want to return women to property status.

            This is just about one group exerting power over another, which is the basis of sexism, racisim, classism, anti gay etc.

            Get the facts.

          • LFOldTimer

            Men and women are not equal. We’re designed differently for a reason. Physcially, mentally and emotionally. Any attempts to make us “equal” is an act of futility. This is not to say that one gender is better than the other. We aren’t. But we were created for different purposes. You see this is nature too through behavior and patterns in all animal species. Males perform certain tasks. So do females. Together we sustain life. Only humans try to equate the two out of political correctness. In the end Mother Nature always wins. Mother Nature is stronger than both of us combined.

            Playing the sexist, racist, chauvinist, bigot etc… cards only adds more mud to the water and perpetrates strife over something that is biological (science) and can’t be changed. Why fight it?

            Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

          • OCservant_Leader

            Stop the animal kingdom BS!

            The issue is gender equality in the law. Men & Women are equal in the eyes of the law,

            One does not OWN the other…this has nothing to do with who menstruates, gives birth, can fry bacon wearing high heels and shoot guns or beat their chest like a gorilla.

            Come on OT – you are more logical than this!

          • LFOldTimer

            The law is made by man who is fallible. Genders are made by Mother Nature who is infallible. I’ll side with Mother Nature any day.

            The law says that women don’t have to register for the draft with the Selective Service System at age 18.

            Is that equal??? lol

            Give me some areas where you claim women are suppressed.

            Don’t say college because there are MORE women in college today than men.

          • OCservant_Leader

            My only point is

            Feminism is about equality under the law.

            Man and woman are EQUAL humans. One cannot own the other like property.

            This is the basis of civil rights as well.

            I have now:

            Dropped the mic…

            Thank you.

          • LFOldTimer

            And my point is that there are MANY parts of the law that prejudicially favor females over males. So it goes both ways. I’ve already given you examples. But nobody cries when men get the short end of the stick and are not treated “equal” under the law.

            Now do you get MY point?

          • OCservant_Leader

            OT

            I am talking about ONE point.

            The property law issue which is the basis of the Feminist movement.

            Is there any legal beagles out there who can give me a hand here??

            You guys are as thick as mud!

          • LFOldTimer

            Women are no more “property” or “chattel” in 2017 than I’m Rin-Tin-Tin. Stop exaggerating. You’re losing credibility fast.

            The women’s rights movement has mushroomed into a hatred crusade against men. In 2017 women have MORE rights than men.

            The fact that you continue to play the victim card is laughable.

            Btw, this is not a ONE POINT argument. It is multifaceted.

          • OCservant_Leader

            You better brush up on your Her-Story OT.

            The theory behind women not having the vote — is they are the “property” of the man, are not a seperate person in the legal sense.

            The argument to give women the right to vote was based on the same theory that a “black man” was a person, therefore got to vote (remember the civil war)?

            The Feminists built on this theory if a black man was a human -and could vote…then it follows logically that a woman is a person actually seperate from her “husband”.

            It was a hard fight because women as chattel and property is a concept deep in our Anglo-Saxon law.

            A legal beagal will have to take over – because you boys just don’t git it.

          • LFOldTimer

            Good Christ. You’re going back 100 years. Get into your time capsule and push the fast forward button and stop whining about happened a century ago.

            During my work life I couldn’t count on both hands how many times I had to do 2 jobs – my own and the job of a pregnant female who took 2 months off after having her kid. But I didn’t get paid for doing her job. Not a cent more. But when they came back they complained they weren’t making as much as I was!!! HA! Laughable.

            That’s “equality” for ya!!!! HA!

            Stop whining about women being “property”. Nothing is farther from the truth. You’re living in the archives, dear!!!

        • questionauthority2

          Also, don’t forget due to the fact that stay at home moms were what was the societal “norm” back then– how many women were “set free” from what many of them wouldn’t admit in public, was their misery and wanting to be able to use their minds, think, learn, many had high educations that were replaced with “how to make pot roast” reading. Remember all of the ads for how to please your man when he came home from work, wear lipstick, entertain the boss for dinner, support your man– women longed for more and the feminism movement gave many the out they wanted. Others didn’t wait for that.

          • LFOldTimer

            My point is that today women are economic slaves in the workforce. Back in the day they weren’t economic slaves. Raising children is a critically important job that women specialize in. Ever heard of the maternal instinct? Today kids are raised by 3rd parties in day care centers. No wonder crime and mental illness has risen exponentially. Mom has placed money over the interests of her children.

          • LFOldTimer

            80% of people who work for a living HATE their jobs. Just ask a few if you don’t believe me. They all work for MONEY. If they won the lottery tomorrow they’d QUIT their jobs. IOW’s 80% of people are SLAVES to their jobs and their master who signs their paycheck.

            Just because you aren’t in the workforce it doesn’t mean that you have to stop growing for God sakes! FINALLY you could do all the things you always wanted to do. Take interesting classes. Join a club. Form a club. Be socially and politically active outside the workplace. Travel. Get in shape. etc….

            When women chose feminism and so-called “equality” they decided they wanted to become part of the slave market.

            And they got what they wished for!!! lol.

    • Jacki Livingston

      Is that what you think women were doing???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Lay off the Ozzie and Harriet reruns, darlin. Why can’t men stay home and take care of the kids? Hmmm? I tell you why, because men don’t have the stamina. This Mad Men crap is just crap. I wouldn’t go back to that fake Stepford world for anything.

      • LFOldTimer

        Just look at the animal world. The females care for the young. The males bring home the bacon in nearly all animal species. You never see wolves or gorillas change gender roles, do you? Ever ask yourself ‘why?”. It’s because Mother Nature didn’t design the circle of life that way. One side attacking the other never helped anything. The only solution is to face reality and accept it.

        • OCservant_Leader

          Can you please speak to the real issue?

          Feminism is about -laws – changing women as property to human beings who are citizens– therefore have the right to vote.

          You are off in the weeds with your blithering.

          • LFOldTimer

            “Feminism is about -laws – changing women as property to human beings who are citizens– therefore have the right to vote.”

            OMG. lol. Talk to any man who’s been through divorce court and then tell me which gender is considered “property”. lol.

            You’ve bought into the politically correct nonsense hook, line and sinker.

            I suspect you’re a male who’s been feminized through bullying in some respects. Just a guess.

          • OCservant_Leader

            LMAO!!

          • LFOldTimer

            Oh. So you are female? I should have known. My bad.

          • OCservant_Leader

            Female? Genetic or born?

          • LFOldTimer

            Is the F box or M box checked on your BC?

            That’s all that really matters.

            No matter what they tell you the parts are not interchangeable.

            You can’t put a Chevy engine in a Ford truck.

          • OCservant_Leader

            It’s O – for Other

            I believe the F box & M box were discontinued due discrimination based on the civil right that we are born “free”, and should not be forced “into a box” and defined by the government.

            Then we can abolish that department in DC that collates the data from the boxes. It’s a wasted use of government.

            LOL

          • LFOldTimer

            How could a BC have an “Other” box for gender??? HA.

            Either you have a male appendage when you’re born or you don’t.

            Sometimes they have to sprinkle pepper on it and wait until it sneezes to see it. Nevertheless, it’s either there or not there. Gender is based on it’s presence or absence.

            So please, stop with the “Other” silliness. We’re all adults here.

            Life is a box. If you don’t want to be categorized as male or female you’re living on the wrong planet.

          • OCservant_Leader

            Oh god I am LMAO!!

    • Bill Colver

      Yeah, women had it made until the feminists showed up. They couldn’t even vote.

      • LFOldTimer

        As I previously stated, the suffrage movement was organized by a group that had completely different motivations that the modern day feminists.

        Apparently you missed my comment.

        Go to the library and check out a few library books on the subject. You might learn something.

        • Bill Colver

          I don’t really care what you believe.

          The reality is that Mrs. Venegas enjoys opportunities and options that were derived by women acting in the manner she derides.

          Believing that suffrage and equal opportunities came about because of benevolence is naivete.

          • LFOldTimer

            If women truly want “equality” why don’t they join the infantry in mass so that in our next war they can give their lives in battle at the same rate that men give theirs? Why don’t they fight to be allowed to register for the draft like men are required to BY LAW at age 18? I don’t see any protest over that.

            All they want is the good stuff. Not the bad. When they start protesting to take the bad with the good – I’ll listen to their demands.

            Got it?

          • Bill Colver

            Which doesn’t change my earlier point regarding Mrs. Venegas’ remarks towards women protesting for the rights she enjoys.

            No one really cares about your standards or whether or not you will listen.

        • OCservant_Leader

          The right to vote…is the first step in personhood. Suffrage was “first” wave.

          We are now on “third” wave –if you haven’t noticed the young women are pissed!!

          watch out!

          • LFOldTimer

            Pissed at what? lol.

            Tell them to join the Army and specifically the infantry if they want “equality”.

            See if they take you up on it. lol

  • OCservant_Leader

    What is the purpose of this nonsense?

    If you want to -work all day and then go home to cook dinner for your husband and many children – then you go girl!

    Thank your Feminist’s sisters – you can be a working mother and still put on your high heels & pearls!!

    It’s about choices. Good for you!

  • verifiedsane

    What a refreshing voice for sanity (which is rarely shared on VOC)…by Clare Venegas…women shouldn’t be stuffed or intimidated into a single progressive box by the far left…It’s past time to confront the pseudo women’s movement hypocrisy which has become nothing short of cultivating cultural Marxism; not about celebrating the contributions of everyday women of all stars & stripes in our society.

    These voices who propagate a false narrative through MSM and by well funded & organized extremist groups controlled by George Soros and like individuals; detest traditional America family morals & values.

    So let me personally tip my hat and say thank you Clare…

    • OCservant_Leader

      You are implying that ALL women of the “far left” detest American family values and morales ?

      That is complete nonsense!

      Take it back!

      • verifiedsane

        Everyone! maybe or possibly not? There might be a few that still have not drank the regressive cool-aid; but the Left’s agenda is basically anti-Traditional American values. Not taking back a single word…

        • questionauthority2

          What? do you really believe Hillary or Bill would come forward and admit any wrong doing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

        • OCservant_Leader

          ster·e·o·type
          ˈsterēəˌtīp/
          noun
          1. a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

          You are taking a myth and applying it to an entire group of people who believe women are human beings — equal to a man — in the eye of the law — therefore do not fall under “Property Law”.

          I know lots and lots of Feminists and am not familiar with this characterization you describe.

          Let’s take Pantsuit. Feminist. Wife and Mother. Believes in equality between the sexes – under the law.

          End of story.

          • verifiedsane

            It is not a stereotype when the actual evidence supports a derived conclusion. The extreme left’s documented actions support the conclusion and opinion I have reached.

            Time and time again..(though it may take many months to uncover as with Brazile, or longer in the cases of the Clinton’s, Soros, and many other far left dubious power players) these well funded & organized far left actions/events targeting and meant to intimidate those of opposing views and conservatives (many times with violence and rioting), using the fake moniker “Women’s Movement” as Camouflage for Left’s nefarious actions attacking those who hold true to traditional American values and political adversaries; This provides us with a strong circumstantial case and factual foundation to support the opinions that I have expressed here are far from stereotypical; but based upon reasonable deduction and a factual base of people involved, political organizations, and like events/actions.

            You may chose to wear those rose colored glasses and ignore the evidence until those blue cows come home (which is your right and opinion); that does not make you the truth Czar or make your opinion any more valid than mine or others. “end of story”, as you like to say “Shut it! or “take it back””

          • OCservant_Leader

            Can you please stay on topic?

            You appear to be an educated, crafty professional “word smith” who leaves interesting and thoughtful posts.

            Can you please discuss – the history of Anglo-Saxon PROPERTY LAW — which IS the issue and topic I am trying to get you dinasours (I say this with love) to respond to.

            I haven’t said — “Shut It” to you….yet…on this topic.

            So give it a whirl.

          • verifiedsane

            This discussion could go down an endless rabbit hole of religious & theological parley, some ancient Anglo-Saxon legal concept squabbling, interminable nature verse nurture arguments, contested creation verses evolution clashes of opposition forces, and fiery left/right decisive political debate into the infinite cosmos .

            Shall we really start with modern feminism attacks on the unborn rights not addressed in ancient legal constructs…since it takes two consenting (in most events of coupling) humans to produce a fetus (one male, one female – in the normal reproductive process).

            Why is it that only one participant has the legal right to terminate that newly created life containing the DNA and biological make up of both parties (does equal contribution equate to equal property rights?).

            Of course if only one participant (the female), solely decides to bring this living fetus creation to full term and birth; only then does the male participant then assume legal responsibility for it’s financial care and related upbringing.

            Current legal precepts make an assumption that one participant has rights circumventing the rights of the other biological related equal contributory participant, and completely ignores the basic human rights of a now living fetus; premised only upon the a natural fact that the fetus resides within the female participants body. No other rights currently are even considered in the evaluation issue?

            Boy oh boy, we could fill this comment section with hundreds of pages of debates, contemptuous fingering pointing, and opposing view points.

            but wouldn’t that really deflect away from an honest & refreshing conservative leaning alternative feminine opinion piece shared by Clare Venegas above…

          • OCservant_Leader

            The reason is because the male is not affected by said pregnancy and is free to wander off (and find more baby mothers) with no responsibility towards said fetus or mother.

            If the male wants the baby and commits to said fetus and provides safe and loving home for mother…she is going to have the baby and they will be a family.

            Abortion is last resort when father is so irresponsible- it is best not to bring life. So very sad for mother & fetus.

            One has to only look at nature to see the blatant disregard the male species has towards the female post-copulation.

            Let’s see- Lions, Bears, gorillas, horses, goldfish and jack rabbits all come to mind.

          • verifiedsane

            What the flying UFO! Are you not the same person that blasted LFOldTimer above for not being legalistic enough when bringing nature and natural differences between men and women into the discussion?

            to quote you “You are off in the weeds with your blithering”

          • OCservant_Leader

            What’s good for the goose…is good for the gander.

      • questionauthority2

        Not only should verified not “take it back”, I’d like to see a list of the ones WITH documented consistent values and morals; let alone ethics and straight up honesty!

        • OCservant_Leader

          So Feminists do not have “ethics” and are “dishonest”? Really?

          More hate speech – to return women to property status – eh?

          Ain’t gonna happen. Get over it.

          • questionauthority2

            Your comments reflect a real issue with women of all types, antagonistic, arrogant and no depth. IMO

          • OCservant_Leader

            You can’t even coherently discuss the history of “Property Law” which is the basis of Feminism.

            So what does that make you?

          • questionauthority2

            I never attempted to discuss “Property Law” OCLeader, you definitely portray who you are quite well.

          • OCservant_Leader

            Correct.

            You can’t discuss “Property Law” – so you go off in the weeds and beat the same old tired drum of stereotypes.

            Why are you ignorant to the point of this discussion?

          • questionauthority2

            Because you are doing fine on your own, in your world. Stay on topic.

          • OCservant_Leader

            Your cave-woman must want to hit herself in the head repeatedly with a rock rather than try to have a conversation with you.

          • questionauthority2

            hahahahahahaha assuming much? LOL

          • OCservant_Leader

            I’m looking for a rock…

          • verifiedsane

            Stoning, or lapidation, is a method of capital (with a capital “D”) punishment whereby a group throws stones (in modern day this has morphed into a practice where liberal groups cast insults and derogatory insinuations) at a person until they die. No individual among the group can be then identified as the one who kills the subject. This is considered a politically correct and well accepted method of public assassination by MSM and far left operatives in the cultural humanist 21st century. 🙂

          • OCservant_Leader

            I referred to a self-inflicted strike of said stone/rock to the head of the victim who welcomes the assault as a last ditch effort to escape the person who talks in circles and has difficulty in coming to a point.

          • verifiedsane

            come on…I was jesting….sarcasm….a little lite folly…of course in early Anglo-Saxon legal culture, punishing of the innocent was common place…it was assumed (in many cases simply by verbal accusation) if the accused was actually innocent; God would step in to save the person from a many times brutal and tortuous fate that had been arbitrarily sentenced upon them…and thus would be deemed publicly “innocent”.

          • OCservant_Leader

            Oh yea…

            Reminds me of the Salem witch trials – huh?

            What do you think that was about? Burning women alive at the stake or drowning them to see if they were possessed?

            Most of accusers were men BTW.

            We’ve come a long way baby…

            Now we get on our brooms and lawyer up!

          • verifiedsane

            Are you working under the totally false premise that only women were horrendously persecuted for crimes believed to be of evil origin….

          • OCservant_Leader

            Salem witch Trials – killed 103 innocent women.

            I think there were a few -males who were feminized and bullied as children – included as well.

            What? now you want to talk about the Crusades?

            Bring it!

          • verifiedsane

            Considering the comments regularly spewed here by the Leftist…there is some question of how many of those 103 were actually innocent…….

          • OCservant_Leader

            One only has to research the Malleus Makeficarum and the Witch-hunts of early modern Europe to know that the current war on women (in its many forms as evidenced here) is alive and as dangerous to all women and (feminized males bullied as children) and all supporters of Equal Rights under the Law. We must stay diligent as the enemy is clever.

          • verifiedsane

            WOW….not much else to add after those last two rhetorical and retaliatory comments; this conversation has become synonymous with a hilarious journey into complete absurdity and lunacy… thank you for participating 🙂

          • OCservant_Leader

            I enjoyed the ride. Thanks

          • LFOldTimer

            How many American men sacrificed their lives in WW1 and WW2?

            Now, how many American women sacrificed their lives in WW1 and WW2?

            Compare and contrast the numbers.

            What the h*ll happened to equality?

          • OCservant_Leader

            The City Fathers downplayed the real numbers of women killed as it was determined by their highly paid crisis management fixer- it was bad for publicity and their chances at reelection.

          • questionauthority2

            In the 1600’s? are you on crack?!

          • OCservant_Leader

            Can’t I share in the lite humor and folly of this blog or is that reserved just for the RedCounty Boyz?

            Besides – I’m replying to Verified.

          • verifiedsane

            No you can’t! I reserved this particular section of merriment in Dec. 1624 right after a festive witch dunking party as a gift to myself and historical prosperity. Didn’t you read the “don’t tread on me” sign as you entered the comment section?…. 🙂

            To quote a modern philosophical giant “Thank God, I’m a country boy”

          • OCservant_Leader

            Well it’s 5:00 somewhere. May as well have a toddy and reflect on the jewels of knowledge shared here today.

          • questionauthority2

            That’s nice. Make sure you only reply to those speaking to you from now on. Please.

          • OCservant_Leader

            You are welcome to exit my orbit at any time.

          • questionauthority2

            You’re so right it is an orbit LOL

          • questionauthority2

            Sounds like a politician doesn’t it?

          • questionauthority2

            Your words, not mine. I asked you to post a list of names that have verified straight up ethics, (IE not Brazile)

          • questionauthority2

            Oh good another comment from OCLeader, words of wisdom once again LOL!

          • OCservant_Leader

            How about all the women at the Women’s March…the P*ssy Hats! with wedding rings on, babies in tow and many had their man by their side.

            Your argument is based on a Stereotype.

          • questionauthority2

            That’s all you have ? thank G*D I don’t have to listen to those shrill shrieking voices on the news like we had to that day, did any one of them state anything intelligent whilst wearing those ridiculous caps?

          • questionauthority2

            BTW, I don’t have an argument here, pay attention.

      • Jacki Livingston

        Truth. Most women want the same things. Work that fulfills us, happy kids, safe homes, good men. Pretty simple.

  • gustavoarellano

    This is the Voice of OC at its worst: allowing itself to be used so operatives can publish pure, clunky propaganda. Remember when they published the loathsome Matty Cunningham? Pathetic