• LFOldTimer

    You mean if you like your doctor you can’t keep your doctor? I thought Obama told us the exact opposite?

    And if you like your insurance plan you can’t keep your insurance plan? I thought Obama told us the exact opposite.

    But then he also told us that ObamaCare was not a tax – when by definition it was. In fact, after telling the nation that ObamaCare was NOT a tax on the George Stephanopolous Sunday news broadcast just 2 weeks before congress approved it – Obama sent his legal team to the Supreme Court to argue that ObamaCare was a tax – thereby making it constitutional.

    What a stinking liar.

    • Jacki Livingston

      Gee, a politician lied? Stop the presses! He must be the very first one in history…oh, wait, no…he just gets flack for his mistakes and no credit for his successes, and let’s not delude ourselves into thinking it has ANYTHING to do with the man’s skin color. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. And in other breaking news: water is wet.

      • LFOldTimer

        A liar is liar – regardless of skin color.

        Clinton is a liar, Bush is a liar and so is Obama.

        But here we’re talking about ObamaCare. So Obama is the focus of attention.

        If the article reported on Monica Lewinsky or the Iraq invasion Obama wouldn’t even come up in the conversation.

        Playing the race card is just a diversion to dilute the truth.

  • Paul Lucas

    yikes

  • Jacki Livingston

    SSA is becoming automated without humans to protect the people. They are so busy rigging it to make illegal money off it, they are not watching for glitches.

  • Dailysportseditor

    Strange piece (with misleading headline) for Voice of OC to post. It was distributed by Kaiser, a competitor in the health plan market. Looking at the headline, you would assume pregnant women were being completely dropped by their health plans; totally untrue. They were shifted over to Medi-Cal coverage, which is essentially free when compared to Covered California private insurance. The affected individuals were in a low income bracket and thus eligible for Medi-Cal due to the pregnancy. The computer glitch which occurred is that the affected individuals were not given the option of staying with their higher-cost private insurance plan. This story and headline is an example why reputable news outlets should not distribute corporate public relations newsletter pieces without editing them for accuracy.

    • LFOldTimer

      “The affected individuals were in a low income bracket and thus eligible for Medi-Cal due to the pregnancy.”
      Not true. Did you read the article? The cutoff for Medi-Cal for a family of 2 was about $22,100. These women fell into the income bracket above $22,100 and were shifted to Medi-Cal.
      Computer glitch? ha. Another likely government excuse. How many times have we heard that one?
      There is a certain hierachy of medical doctors. The ones who see medi-cal patients are not considered the best and the brightest. And they are becoming fewer and fewer due to the lousy reimbursement rates. Many medi-cal patients have to go to the ER for treatment since it’s practically impossible to see their medi-cal primary care doctor due to their overload of patients and overbooked schedules. That that overloads our hospital ER’s.
      ObamaCare will not survive. It will evolved into single-payor healthcare – which was the original intention anyway.

      • Jacki Livingston

        I have to disagree with you, in part. When I retired from the County, my employee health care through Kaiser was changed to Medi-Cal through Kaiser. I still see the very best and brightest rheumatologist in all of So Cal. Is it hard to get an appointment with him? Yes, because he is the guy that every doctor tells you that they would send their family to. He is the best of the best. But that has nothing to do with my being on MediCal. The quality of care that I get from my “Obamacare” versus my employee plan is absolutely no different. Kaiser was seamless. But, I may have been lucky. And, yes, there are problems with the healthcare program. There were problems with Social Security and every other newfangled program in our history. You don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. You fix the problems. The fact that this country is light years behind other developed nations with our abysmal health care and not having coverage for every citizen is as embarrassing as our high school kids’ math scores.

        • LFOldTimer

          The problem is growing enormously. Did you hear that the United Health Care is exiting ObamaCare in about 90% of it’s enrolled states? ObamaCare is costing it $100’s of millions of dollars. And other major insurers (BCBS) are talking seriously about pulling out too. These are signs that Obamacare is collapsing under it’s own weight, as many predicted it would. The insurers are demanding huge premium increases for 2017. So much for the “Affordable Care Act”. Now illegal foreigners are getting free Medi-Cal. The failed healthcare care system that’s already eating up 20% of our GDP is going to bankrupt the nation. Obamacare only made it worse. I would rather have the Canadian healthcare system than Obamacare.

          • Jacki Livingston

            Illegal aliens cannot get MediCal, except for four things. Number one, contraception. Number two, childbirth. Number three, life threatening emergency. Number four, long term care in nursing homes. That is it. These insurers were making money hand over fist, before and delivering lousy care. I don’t feel sorry for them. United was the worst! I wouldn’t take a dog to them. Universal healthcare is necessary. If others have a way to make it work better, they should put it in the suggestion box. But we cannot go back. We have to go forward.

          • LFOldTimer

            Apparently you didn’t read about the new law the State legislators just passed.

            Illegal foreigners -under age 19 – are now entitled to Medi-Cal and can enroll in May.

            They expect it to add 170,000 new Medi-Cal enrollees.
            Yet nobody can figure out why Obamacare is hemorraging. And that’s probably a low-ball estimate – just like for the illegal driver’s licenses.

            As an American try to get your kid free unlimited soup to nuts healthcare in Mexico (or any other nation for that matter) when you reside in their country illegally.