Serrano: Don’t Foreclose Santa Ana City Jail

Cutting off your nose to spite your face is an expression that dates back to the 12th century. It is thought to be derived from legends of pious women who disfigured themselves in order to protect their virginity. Today it has come to mean a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem. “Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face” is a warning against acting in a way that would damage oneself more than address the subject of your concern.

The previous Santa Ana City Council has cut off its nose, and by extension the nose of the City, by giving in to the bullying of a small group of outside agitators and refusing to comply with the federal contract with ICE which is a legal agreement in place with the city. Rather than considering the drastic implications of allowing ICE to remove inmates from the jail, the previous Council has provoked the cancellation of a contract that could have kept the facility operating for years to come, provided fiscal stability to the city and saved union jobs.

This contract has been in place for over 15 years. It brings in approximately $9 million in revenue to the City’s general fund and is the funding source for our jail operations as well as other community programs. The jail employs about 100 people, many of whom are longtime city employees and residents with families and the obligations we all share. Does our current Council care about them?

At a recent Council meeting a group of radical activists spoke out about the federal contract and closing the jail. We don’t know how many of the speakers are residents of Santa Ana, but we do know that they incite the audience to loud displays of incivility designed to intimidate other audience members as well as the Council.

The core of their concerns is federal immigration policy. The City Council can do nothing about the federal government’s policies on immigration. It can do something about public safety in Santa Ana and the City employees who service the needs of the community. That is the Council’s primary job.

The jail doesn’t enforce the immigration laws. On the contrary, it operates as a special facility, offering treatment, care, and programs for those people detained by immigration authorities. If the contract is cancelled, people who are now kept in Santa Ana, near their families and support networks, and where they are treated with dignity and respect, will be sent all over the country, many to privately run jails. Private jails are in business to make money. Anything that cuts into the profit is shunned. Decent food, programs, medical care and treatment and high quality custody officers are all things that are missing in private jails. The Council and the activists that motivate them are willing to forgo the advantages of the jail, a key component to public safety, to make a point about something over which they have no control. People are still going to be detained by the federal immigration authorities. Just under worse conditions, and farther away from home.

The Council was elected to run the City of Santa Ana. That means listening to all the stakeholders: citizens, business people, homeowners, tenants and employees, probably close to 500,000 people on any given day. The voices of 25 loud people speaking at a City Council meeting should not drown out the concerns and needs of the other 500,000 plus people who live and work in Santa Ana. Let them participate in the discussion; it is their right.  But, when difficult decisions must be made, bullying tactics should not take the place of a reasoned debate weighing the needs of all the stakeholders including our employees.

It is foolish to cut off the jail to spite the well-being of the community. The Council should do all possible to re-engage this federal contract and honor the current lawful agreement which in place.

Gerry Serrano, President of the Santa Ana Police Officers Association

For a different view on this issue, consider: 

Kanter: Santa Ana Cannot Backtrack on ICE Contract

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  • LFOldTimer

    The SA City Council should invite Lou Correa to town and ask him to surveil the area for ICE patrol cars. lol. The idiot contacted the Homeland Security Secretary and complained that an ICE patrol car was intimidating people on or about the Christ Cathedral in GG! lol. It turned out it was a Custom’s vehicle (not ICE) that transported a color guard to a colleague’s funeral!!!

    What’s Lou going to see next? Donald Trump dressed in an ICE ninja costume sneaking around the Yost Theater during a Battle of the Mariachi Bands? lol.

    You’ve brought new humor to the 46th District, Lou.

    Thanks for the laughs!

  • David Zenger

    “But, when difficult decisions must be made, bullying tactics should not take the place of a reasoned debate weighing the needs of all the stakeholders including our employees.”

    Bullying tactics and the cop union is victim? What? Can these be the same stalwarts who raided the dispensary, broke the cameras and tried to intimidate the woman in the wheelchair – with impunity?

  • Madeleine Spencer

    Contrary to Serrano’s opinion that we should be working toward 1.) Keeping the Jail open for years to come, 2. Provide fiscal stability in the city, 3. Save Union Jobs, This article written by Adam a while back describes specifically why all of these propositions put forward by Serrano are misnomers.

  • LFOldTimer

    The police union is only interested in the flow of money into the police coffers and the number of employees under their control since bigger numbers means bigger kingdoms. Duh? Public safety? ha. That comes in a DISTANT THIRD!!! ha.

    Did you hear the SA police union squawk when SA declared itself to be a ‘sanctuary city’ that would help protect criminals??? Nada!!! ha. Why? Because more criminals means more job security for the cops, more hirings and thus MORE MOOLAH and a BIGGER KINGDOM! So simple Barney Fife could figure it out!!!

    We see through the fog and the mud in the water, Mr. Serrano. But thanks for your opinion anyway!

    Why not do an op-ed on the SA drug cop who was reinstated after being caught on video consuming edibles on the weed dispensary raid and destroying private property?

    We’d love to read your spin on that one too!!! lol.

    • David Resendez

      This ignorant statement tops the charts. The SAPOA did oppose the Sanctuary City because it wanted it folks working with ICE. However, Serrano is focused on the big prize which is getting more money in his member’s pockets. If he fails to increase pay, he’s a one term president.

      • LFOldTimer

        So where is the op-ed from Serrano that decried the council declaring SA a sanctuary city??? I must have missed it. lol.

        And give me a proof source that the SA police union opposed the sanctuary city status.

        Most cops use the phony excuse “Oh, we have to form alliances with the illegals so they will report crimes”. LOL!

        Then why hold any criminals accountable??? All criminals are potential informants. Why not turn a blind eye to ALL criminals due to their potential value as informants?

        So you understand what a stupid excuse that is???

        COPS ARE SUPPOSED BE TO ENFORCERS – not apologists for criminals!!

        • David Resendez

          Being ignorant is your forte. Lol!

          Do you remember the SAPOA doing a press release in Voice of OC for the rogue cop? Of course not because Serrano doesn’t want to become Chicken Little.

          He picks his battles, unlike you, smart guy. Lol!

          I don’t expect a dolt like you to appreciate that…..LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            Naturally you refused to answer my questions and instead divert the argument in another direction.

            You lose by default.

            Thanks for playing though. It was my pleasure to make you look silly. 🙂
            Call on me anytime.

          • justanon

            You’re a legend in your own mind, ha,ha,ha.

            You have no credibility, you’re just a bigot. Constantly attacking “illegals” and only bringing up their law-breaking american citizen employers when you’re shamed into it.

          • LFOldTimer

            I have stated several times that employers should be punished along with illegals for breaking labor laws. So you’re imagining things.

            But the snowflakes imply that we should only punish employers and leave the illegals alone – which doesn’t make a lick of sense.

            If I’m a “bigot” for defending national sovereignty and the integrity of America as a country – then call me a “bigot” all you want. I laugh at you and wear it with pride. But the actual definition of the word “bigot” does not describe me in the least. As usual, your wires are crossed.

            Intelligent people understand that illegal immigration is a dispute among nations, not races.

            Educate yourself in your spare time.

          • justanon

            Your only focus is on the undocumented workers, you could give a rat’s *ss about going after the employer.

            I know you’re a bigot by your support of that big league bigot, trump.
            He whipped up the haters in this country and rode that hate all the way to the White House. He knows his supporters are bigots and only want to see misery and pain inflicted on poor brown people.

            How do I know this? By his budget.

            “The budget request the Trump administration submitted to Congress last week includes a $2.6 billion down payment for the wall, $1.5 billion to ramp up detention and deportation operations and $314 million to hire immigration agents. Meanwhile, a proposal to make E-Verify compulsory nationwide is allocated a paltry $15 million.”


            So, the trump administration is spending less than 1% going after the employers and 99+% on persecuting poor immigrants.

            That’s bigotry in action.

          • LFOldTimer

            You’ve misstated my position that I’ve stated many times: That both employers and illegals who break the labor laws should be punished. The illegals should be deported. The employers should be fined and/or jailed. So stop misinforming others about my positions on topics.

            So everyone who supports Trump is a “bigot” now? LOL! Half the nation are “bigots”? What a total fool you make of yourself!

            Educate yourself. It is actually up to Congress to enact E-Verify. Trump wants to fund more research so E-Verify can be strengthened and
            eventually mandated.

            Trump does have authority to ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE NATION. That is not “bigotry”. It’s part of his LAWFUL DUTIES at POTUS!! It is black letter law that was on the books LONG BEFORE Trump was inaugurated. You apparently support ignoring rule of law!!! lol. How would you like it if the government ignored breaking and entering crimes – then someone broke into your home – you called the police and were told breaking and entering crimes were no longer enforced therefore the police would not respond? LOL!

            You have a very strange thought process I must say.

          • justanon

            It’s HIS EFFING BUDGET! If he wanted to allocate more money to go after employers WHY DIDN’T HE DO IT?

            Because he DOES NOT CARE about going after the law breaking American citizens! He’s only budgeting money to inflict pain on poor brown people.

            Less than 1% allocated for enforcing our hiring laws, what a joke!

            You’re making excuses because the truth is ugly and is a reflection of trump and his supporters priorities.

            Bigotry is UGLY, just look in the mirror, pal.

          • LFOldTimer

            “Poor brown people?”

            As I’ve asserted over and over again. Illegals come in all colors. Since you only focus on one color of illegals me wonders whether you’re the “bigot” you accuse everyone else of being??? lol.

            This may be a classic case of projection that we’ve read about in the psychology texts! lol.

            You step in it over and over again.

            Go wash your shoes! lol.

          • justanon

            Yeah, you bigots like to pretend that “illegals come in all colors” but trump ain’t building his wall on our northern border and he’s hasn’t been talking about illegal Polish, Irish or Canadian workers.

            From trump’s campaign kick-off speech:

            “When Mexico (meaning the Mexican Government) sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you (pointing to the audience). They’re not sending you (pointing again). They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people! But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people. It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.”

          • LFOldTimer

            Illegals of all nationalities invade America from our southern border. But I guess you don’t keep up.

            What Trump says about the Mexican government is absolutely true. But I realize in times of universal deceit that speaking the truth is considered a revolutionary act.

            Mexico is only one nation in a group of nations that does it. They offload their unwanted citizens on us. A lesser burden for them. A greater burden for us. How would any of those nations like it if we sent all of our illiterates and indigents and criminals into their countries? Oh, it would be an act of war! But it’s perfectly fine for them to do it to us.

            Naturally when you look at it from a truthful angle it changes the scenery just a little bit, doesn’t it, dear?

            Put on your wide lens and open your mind to reality.

          • justanon

            The EASIEST and MOST EFFECTIVE and PERMANENT way to rid the country of undocumented workers would be to GO AFTER THE AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO EMPLOY THEM!!!!!!

            But of course, that is NOT what trump is doing is it? He’s spending our money persecuting the powerless immigrants and all your blathering about what Mexico and other countries are doing or not doing won’t change or hide that fact.


            That’s the question you need to answer if you want to prove that this isn’t about anything other than naked racism.

            “Universal deceit”

            That’s trump and his easily duped supporters playbook in a nutshell, lol.

          • David Resendez

            Ignore this racist old fool aka LFOldTimer. He is delusional. He’s also very smart, just ask him.

          • LFOldTimer

            I don’t consider myself “smart” at all. Nor am I a “racist”. But years of experience have given me the fortitude to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff and ignore all the biased and dishonest noize from the grandstanders in the cheap seats wagging their fingers high in the air and whining simultaneously. lol.

          • David Resendez

            Lol. True to form. Garbage in, garbage out. Predictable. Smart guy can’t contain himself.

          • LFOldTimer

            Why don’t you contribute something of value or interest relative to these discussions as opposed to name calling and vitriol?

            Or is that beneath you? lol

          • verifiedsane

            That’s all these cultural Marxist have; “name calling”

            These open border, and free for all types provide no rational arguments…They just spew the same typical propaganda and nonsense that is spoon fed them by the extreme far Left.

            Considering that they are still crying and throwing tantrums over losing the election in 2016, provides everyone a nice glimpse into their lack of overall maturity and intellect.

          • LFOldTimer

            It says something when all they can offer are personal insults – void of any substance to the discussion. I view it as capitulation. Perhaps I should thank them for the victory.

          • justanon

            What “victory”?

            Maybe you’re too dim to realize that trump has left you and the rest of his supporters with their-pants-down-around-their-knees, in other words you’ve been exposed.

            Exposed for being gullible enough (and that is the ‘charitable’ explanation) to support an immature/mentally ill, ignorant, bigoted, habitual liar who is being INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI FOR TREASON.

            But keep blaming the “liberals” we know that’s your only ‘fig leaf’ and we sure as heck don’t want to be exposed to the naked unadulterated LFOldTimer as that would probably make us all sick (literally and figuratively, lol).

          • LFOldTimer

            Liberals are American-haters.

            They should leave the country if they hate it so much.

          • justanon

            Says the old fool who voted for a TRAITOR for POTUS, ha, ha, ha.

            You couldn’t make this sh*t up if you tried. Are you brushing up on your Russian, comrade?

            Trump supporters are American haters.

          • LFOldTimer

            “Russian comrade”? LOL

            You’re delusional. Not a scintilla of evidence to back your claim.

            Liberals are American-haters and should be deported with their friends the illegals!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            Read and weep, delusional and dishonest one:

            Comey Confirms FBI Probe of Trump-Russia Links


            It’s Official: The FBI Is Investigating Trump’s Links to Russia
            Director James Comey told Congress on Monday that the 2016 probe includes possible contacts between the campaign and the Kremlin.


            F.B.I. Is Investigating Trump’s Russia Ties, Comey Confirms


            You and comrade trump should be deported, ha, ha, ha!!!

          • LFOldTimer

            Investigation? So what? It means next to nothing. Besides, it was politically motivated. Comey is just another political animal.

            Like I said. You’ve got nothing. You’re just blowing more worthless smoke. Your specialty! lol.

          • justanon

            Oh, but for Hillary it was “lock her up”, not only are you a chump, but you’re a HUGE HYPOCRITE!!!

            They got something alright and trump’s manic tweeting is a big ‘tell’, ha, ha, ha!

            We already know that trump is immature/mentally unstable, unbelievably ignorant, a huge liar, lazy and we’re just waiting for confirmation on treasonous!!!

            HAVE YOU NO SHAME???

            YOU and other trump supporters have COMPROMISED the country, if you had ANY integrity you’d shut your trap and NEVER post a comment again!

          • LFOldTimer

            We KNOW what Hillary did. No doubt about it. If some E-5 in the military pulled the stunts she pulled with her server he’d find his as* housed at Leavenworth Penitentiary for 10+ years.

            Yet you have NO connection between Trump and the Russians.

            Zero, Zilch, Nada.

            You’re just flinging more dog squeeze at the wall hoping something sticks! LOL!


          • justanon

            Oh, so for Hillary, allegations = proof, but for trump, allegations = “worthless smoke”‘ what a HUGE HYPOCRITE YOU ARE, HA, HA ,HA!!!!


            And FYI Comrade, it’s the FBI investigating trump, not me, lol!
            And you know what they say .. where there’s “worthless smoke” there’s fire, ha, ha, ha!


          • LFOldTimer

            No allegations. Hitlery even admitted to putting sensitive government communications on a private server. That in itself is a CRIME!

            Even the Director of Intelligence, Donald Clapper, conceded there was NOTHING that personally tied Trump to the Russians.

            Only you snowflakes in your desperation to find dirt on Trump threw that dog squeeze at the wall that fell on to the floor!!!!

            You folks are truly laughable.

            Like little children throwing tantrums!!! LOL!

            Please – keep making fools of yourselves. It’s classic entertainment for the rest of us!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            Sorry, chump, but you’re WRONG (what’s new, lol)!

            “Comey said the Justice Department shouldn’t prosecute Clinton because there isn’t enough evidence that she intentionally mishandled classified information. FBI investigators didn’t find vast quantities of exposed classified material, and they also did not turn up evidence that Clinton intended to be disloyal to the United States or that she intended to obstruct justice.”




            Tantrum? Nah, looks like your boy committed TREASON!!!

            Please- keep making fools of yourselves believing in and defending an immature/mentally unstable, ignorant, lying, traitor, it’s classic entertainment!!!

            Pass the popcorn, as we wait for indictments!!! LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            Toss some more manure by hand at the wall.

            Grease it up a little before you toss it. Maybe some will stick!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            Are you having a ‘big sad’?

            Because the sh*t is all over the White House and it STINKS to high heaven, pal!

            You can run, but you can not hide, you own this traitorous POS!!!


          • justanon

            “That’s all these cultural Marxist have; “name calling””

            This from the blog’s resident name-caller, lol.

            Your lack of self-awareness would be shocking except that I have no expectations for a cultural pustule other than vile little eruptions.

          • verifiedsane

            I would expect nothing less from a good little Marxist puppet doing the chicken dance with their pals. It’s obviously way past time to have mommy change your diaper “justanon”.

            Maybe you can come back later (possibly next century) when you have completed your maturation period with an actual contribution to the conversation; instead of your typical unsophisticated insipid vitriol! 🙂

          • LFOldTimer

            Like your heroine Hitlery used to tell us: “It takes a village”. That is both the buyer and seller of illegal goods are criminals who engage in a criminal conspiracy (labor law crimes) and both must pay for violating criminal statutes, which is generally referred to as Rule of Law.

            But most illegals commit at least 2 additional crimes: Illegal entry and identity theft. So if you believe in rule of law they must pay an ever steeper price. 3 crimes to 1. If you don’t believe in rule of law – move to Burma. You’d love it there. And be sure to send us a postcard to let us know how you’re doing after you’ve settled in. lol.

          • justanon

            Yet only one side of this “criminal” activity is being sought out and punished.

            You can pretend and cry “fake news” and hurl your petty little insults but it won’t change what is obvious and that’s that trump and his supporters (like you), JUST WANT TO PERSECUTE THE IMMIGRANTS AND YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR AMERICAN EMPLOYERS!

            The trump administration could fix this problem almost immediately by slapping a $25,000 fine for each violation of hiring an undocumented worker, yet he won’t do it and his base won’t demand it because you really don’t care about anything but punishing these immigrants.

            Not only are you folks racist, but you’re despicable human beings, reveling in other people’s misery.

          • LFOldTimer

            Liberals specialize in promoting immigration criminality. Trump has released a shame list of all cities and counties that have released illegals back onto the US streets after being CONVICTED of murder, rape, assault, robbery and even child molestation. Southern California cities are included on that list. Why aren’t your PINK HATS marching in protest of that? Illegals convicted of brutally raping American women and the PINK HATS are silent!!! Instead they fight Trump who is only attempting to restore Rule of Law so that illegals are punished and DEPORTED for their egregious crimes. Naturally, you completely ignore that. What monsters the liberals are. They feed their own citizens to criminal illegals who perpetrate horrendous crimes and then the liberals release them back into our communities. Repugnant. Liberals are uncivilized.

            An 18 year old illegal raped a 14 year old in a Maryland public high school restroom with his buddy. Did you hear about it? The citizens of Maryland are outraged that Obama allowed the illegal to remain in the US and commit such a disgusting act on an innocent 14 year old adolescent.

            It’s time to restore CIVILIZATION in America. And even though Trump has only been in office for 2 months he’s already made great progress.

            The dirty liberals won’t be able to stop his momentum. They build fake conspiracies that only make themselves look stupid.

            Hillary got whooped!!! GET OVER IT!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            How delusional are you?

            Everyone who isn’t completely delusional can see that trump is a habitual LIAR.

            His constant stupid and foolish LIES are an embarrassment and worse, damaging our reputation and credibility around the world!

            It’s trump and his supporters who are the American-haters, just look at trump’s DESTRUCTIVE policies. They benefit corporations, military contractors and the super-wealthy, everyone else gets LESS THAN NOTHING!

            Average and poor Americans will get a dirtier environment, worse, more expensive healthcare if you get it at all, more homelessness, more income inequality, less job security and safety, less food security and safety, less civility, less respect and confidence in our institutions. In short a complete degradation of the USA.

            In the final analysis trump supporters are American-haters.

            They hate the people, the institutions and our government, all the trump supporters know, is how to tear-down and hate.

            Like trump they are sick, bitter, angry and delusional, they represent the worst of this country!

          • LFOldTimer

            Liberals are American-haters.

            Deal with it.

            And I noted that you totally ignored the linked news about the 2 illegal aliens who raped a 14 year old girl in a Maryland high school restroom.

            Your slant is obvious.

          • justanon

            Trump supporters are American-haters.

            Deal with it, lol.

          • LFOldTimer

            Liberals give priority to the lives of illegal aliens over our own underclass and homeless citizens.

            The epitome of American-haters. Low-life bottom feeders.

            Shame, shame, shame.

          • justanon

            Liberals value ALL LIVES.

            But keep dodging and deflecting on trump’s policies that HURT average and poor Americans. And most of all, NEVER EVER explain why trump doesn’t prioritize going after the employers of the undocumented workers, after all it would be the easiest, most effective and most permanent solution.

            Too bad that trump couldn’t have had some tanks and other military paraphernalia at his inauguration, maybe that would have convinced us that he wasn’t a traitor, lol!

            Our so-called POTUS is a TRAITOR!

            Shame, shame, shame on his supporters!

          • LFOldTimer

            Except for the lives that grow inside the female uterus. Liberals promote snuffing those!!!

            Liberals give priority to ILLEGAL ALIENS over our own citizen underclass and homeless.

            Anti-Americans by definition.

            Wear it like a badge all you American-hating liberals!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            Bringing up abortion to dodge trump being a traitor and his lack of any policy to deal with employers of undocumented workers is not going to cut it … fail, lol!

            You and trump are giving PRIORITY to “illegal aliens” and hurting our own citizens by spending UNNECESSARY MONEY on walls and deportation forces rather than fining American employers. Going after the employers is the CHEAPEST, easiest, most effective and permanent solution, when will you admit it?

            Wasting tax-payer dollars on a foolish policy just to satisfy his racist base is the epitome of anti-americanism, you’re just too dishonest to acknowledge it.

            Trump is a traitor of the highest order, he’s betrayed his country and his supporters!

            TRUMP IS A TRAITOR, wear it like a badge all you dim-witted, bigoted, American-hating trump supporters!!! LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            No dodge at all.

            You said liberals value all lives. I pointed out that liberals hate lives that grow inside the uterus. They hate those lives so much that they support killing them!!! You just can’t handle the truth. That’s all! lol.

            You can bash Trump all you want. But the truthisms that I’ve communicated in the foregoing comments are spot on and provide ample evidence that LIBERALS ARE AMERICAN-HATERS.

            You are truth resistant!

            Work on your delusional thinking. lol.

          • justanon

            Ha, ha, ha, you’re STILL DODGING and being DISHONEST!

            Why won’t you ADDRESS trump’s lack of policy towards American employers of undocumented workers???

            Because you’re a racist hater!!!

            Why won’t you ADDRESS trump’s being INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI for what amounts to …. TREASON???

            Because you’re a dishonest and delusional American-hater!!!

            You are “truth resistant”, open your eyes, you’ve been duped by a traitor!!!

          • LFOldTimer

            Those who read our exchanged dialogue understand that I make sense and you’re full of it.

            You’re in the wrong league, dear.

            Go back to the pony league where you belong. 🙂

          • justanon

            You have no answers for your blatant hypocrisy.

            Plan B: declare yourself the winner and hope no one notices, ha, ha, ha!

            Trump supporters are traitors and HATE American values!!!

            Please, move to Russia where you belong, comrade! LOL!!!

          • LFOldTimer

            Isn’t there a Pink Hat rally for you to attend today?

            Carry a sign that says: “I hate America. Be Kind to Illegals!”


          • justanon

            Nah, I’ll leave the “I hate America and Americans, but love Russia” rally for you and your ilk.

            Now, go and grab a Meals-on-Wheels dinner from a senior citizen, that will make you feel better!


          • LFOldTimer

            Maybe Hitlery needs a new water bucket carrier in New York.

            Do you have computer experience?

            You could be her server tech!!!! LOL!!!

            Maybe Bill needs an intern? LOL!!!

          • justanon

            More deflection?

            Sorry chumpy, but YOU have to defend that POS traitor you saw fit to put in the White House.

            Calling Hillary juvenile names can’t hide the fact that you voted for an ignorant, morally repugnant, lying, traitor for POTUS.

            Own it!!! LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            Bill and Hillary make Donald and Melania look like cherub angels floating on a cloud above Bethlehem.

            The liberals love Hillary and Bill. Our modern day Bonnie and Clyde.

            Liberals hate America.

          • justanon

            We’re barely two months into this presidency and we’ve already had the National Security Advisor RESIGN FOR LYING (with more to come), trump tweeting out LIES ruining his credibility at home and abroad, he’s insulted and embarrassed numerous allies, his ‘major’ accomplishment has been overturned by the courts, his budget is DOA, he’s costing taxpayers more money than any former POTUS for his ‘vacations’, our agencies are in disarray, he’s pushing a disastrous healthcare bill and HE’S BEING INVESTIGATED FOR TREASON!!!!

            This level of incompetency and scandal is …. “unpresidented”, ha,ha,ha!

            No wonder you want to bring up the Clinton’s, anything than face the DISASTER THAT IS TRUMP!!! LOL!

            Trump supporters hate America and Americans, but love Russia.

          • LFOldTimer


            Common Core spelling.

            A liberal sponsored educational program! LOL!

          • justanon

            No, just a quote from one of trump’s tweets (that’s what quotation marks are for, fool) ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!

            “Donald Trump sent a tweet with the word “unprecedented” incorrectly spelled “unpresidented.””


            HOW EMBARRASSING FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

            I told you he was ignorant, how much more PROOF do you need???? LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            “Last week two illegal aliens in Rockville, Maryland were charged with
            raping a 14-year-old girl at a local high school. One of the suspects
            hardly speaks English and has only been in the United States for eight


            The liberals will probably pay for their immigration lawyers to fight to keep them in the country!!!

            Where are the Pink Hats??? lol.

            Liberals are American-haters.

          • justanon

            Yes, and Jeffery Dahmer, a white guy, killed and ate 17 people, yet we don’t condemn all white men for his crimes. It’s just not how we do things in America.

            Your idiotic and completely hyperbolic rant I know was spoon fed to you from your right-wing slime sites, your inability to think for yourself is only exceeded by your gullibility.

            Trump supporters are American-haters.

          • LFOldTimer

            More diversion. HA!

            As expected.

            You simply can’t acknowledge the truth.

            Like a child living in an imaginary world. lol.

            Thanks for another victory!!! 😉

          • justanon

            So you ‘think’ (and I use the word ‘think’, very, very loosely) that a crime committed by two “illegal aliens” is an indictment of 11 million “illegal aliens”?

            That’s some first-class anti-americanism right there, but of course it’s not surprising as you’re still supporting and defending the traitor-in-chief, lol.

            Trump supporters are American haters, ha, ha, ha!

          • LFOldTimer

            ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS should have no right to education or medical care in our country.

            Go to Mexico and demand free medical care or free education for a non-Spanish speaking illegal immigrant child in English!!! HA!

            They would throw you in jail.

            Yet they send their illiterates and indigents to America for all the taxpayer freebies that the LIBERALS promote!!! HA!

            The Mexicans laugh at the American liberals.

            American liberals are USEFUL IDIOTS to the average Mexican!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            And they couldn’t live here if they didn’t have JOBS!!!

            JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!!

            And WHO gives them those JOBS???

            American employers and yet who is trump going after???

            Poor immigrants.

            Stupid rubes support WASTING TAX DOLLARS going after immigrants rather than the American citizens who ILLEGALLY EMPLOY undocumented workers. What a joke!!!

            American employers and corporations are LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK and at the USEFUL IDIOTS who supported trump!

            Trump supporters are USEFUL IDIOTS for American law breakers!!! LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            There you go again.

            Giving illegal foreigners a big fat pass and blaming the Americans!!!

            Thanks for proving my point, America-hater!!!! LOL!

          • verifiedsane

            I can only ponder a guess that this is was happens when OCC professor Olga Perez C*x assigns her Jr. college students a public cultural interaction project for extra credit….Resulting in an unmitigated liberal antagonism indoctrination that is surely going to create some of the most well qualified, stoic, diplomatic, and chivalrous leaders of tomorrow.

            Okay (re-entering earths orbit), if this is what our educational system is now excreting, we are totally scr*wed moving backwards as a society….

          • justanon

            Another eruption, pustule? LOL!

          • verifiedsane

            If your going to cast out spurious taunts, at least come up with something new and imaginative…you sound like a flat tire traveling down a gravel road, diaper boy…YAWN…..

          • justanon

            My “spurious taunts” are less “yawn” inducing than your juvenile attempt to string together enough big words to make yourself seem articulate.
            Eighth grade fail, lol.

          • verifiedsane

            Another boring taunt from diaper boy….ignorance it has been said can be attended too with time, some effort, pertinent education, and a little due diligence….unfortunately in your case…”stupid” is a malignant & permanent condition…

          • justanon


            YOU have given the American citizens who provide JOBS to the undocumented a pass!

            YOU and trump are WASTING TAX-PAYER DOLLARS by going after the undocumented immigrants instead of doing the MOST COST EFFECTIVE, EASIEST, MOST PERMANENT SOLUTION and that is by imposing punishing FINES on AMERICAN EMPLOYERS.

            BIG.FAT. PASS.

            From an America-hating HYPOCRITICAL,CHUMP!!! LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            I have to assume your brain is fried. Your rants only hurt your own argument. Illegal immigration is the fault of everyone but the illegals!!! HA! Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

            But keep digging deeper. You’re a better act than a clown show!!! LOL!

          • justanon

            I don’t think your “brain is fried, I just know that you are dim-witted and gullible.
            You ‘think’ you’re smart as you regurgitate whatever cr*p you’ve found on your right-wing slime sites.
            You pretend that you’re not a racist, but you support racist and completely illogical policies that ONLY persecute undocumented immigrants while ignoring the EASIEST, CHEAPEST AND MOST PERMANENT SOLUTION. Namely imposing big, instant fines on American employers of undocumented workers, why is that???

            Your rants only serve to reinforce the fact that you’re a bigot. “Illegal immigration” is only the fault of the immigrants! HA! Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

            But keep digging deeper and maybe one day you’ll reach the ‘homeland’, Russia!!!
            Ha, ha, ha, trump is a traitor and you’re one of the clowns who supported him!!! LOL!

          • LFOldTimer

            justanon wanna cracker?

          • justanon

            Is that all you’ve got, traitor supporter???

          • LFOldTimer

            It’s getting late.

            Run off to your Pink Hat rally.

            Be on the lookout for Russians though. I heard there’s one behind every fence post!!! LOL!

            I’m done with you.

          • justanon

            Well, on that we can agree, it is getting late and I’m sure during the time I’ve been wasting here a new trump scandal has erupted.

            There are so many trump scandals it’s hard to keep up!

            Off to get more popcorn!!! LOL!


          • LFOldTimer

            Have you ever thought about opening up an Anti-American retail store that caters to illegals?

            You can sell foreign flags and “I hate America” tee-shirts!!!! HA!

          • justanon

            Have you ever thought about opening an Anti-American retail store that caters to the employers of the undocumented???

            You could sell them t-shirts that say “Thanks chumps!” HA!

          • LFOldTimer

            Nothing original, eh?

            Liberals are like parrots. Liberal wanna cracker??? LOL!

          • justanon

            I just love mirroring your idiocy, nothing exposes a fool like his own image!!! LOL!

  • verifiedsane

    The Santa Ana Police Officers Association has absolutely no credibility left with the citizenry…this opinion piece is solely based upon their own selfish interest, not the greater good of the public or Santa Ana. Maybe the police union would like to begin cleaning up their own house, and stop defending criminal officers; before they try playing politics with the city counsel’s jurisdiction.

    • Jose Tapia

      The POA should start with getting a new president. It’s my understanding that Gerry Serrano has been popped for several DUI’s.