• BeeBee.BeeLeaves

    Benny Diaz has some nerve yapping about central GG, now known as South Central.

    When our Old Orange Grove village was going to be eminent domained, it was our friends and neighbors from Central Garden Grove Neighborhood Association, the very people he discriminates against because they are Caucasian, who helped our East Garden Grove neighborhood. They helped walk streets, coordinate meetings, assign action to fight eminent domain from his loveydoveypalsywalsy “distinguished” Bulldozer Broadwater. Where was his LULAC when my Latino neighbors were about to lose their homes and neighbors to a resort? Not helping the neighborhood that is for sure. GGNA tries to bring neighbors together for helping neighbors and has done so on many occasions over the years with East GG residents. LuLuLuLAC has never but now it is instrumental in dividing neighbors and neighborhoods. And claims unity when they unite folks against central GG, there’s those evil white people again, to break up neighborhood unity. Forked tongue.

    • Silence Dogood

      WOW, the haters of the Kim Nguyen map have lost their sh_t so much they created new words for the English language. #loveydoveypalsywalsy

      • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

        Yep. Its kinda like kissya$$y.

        • Silence Dogood

          Or you are a douchiebaggy.

          • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

            Divisive words from a divider.

  • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

    We were not divided before.
    We are now.
    We thought the bulldozing days were over, but they are not.

    This issue should have gone to the voters in the first place. Instead, it went to litigation. We hire a consultant and for all his time and work and many revisions based on district meetings – meetings where many of the lobbyists voicing support for Kim were never ever seen – it is all ignored. The maps went from being about neighborhoods to being all about race. Neighborhoods lose yet again. What a waste of time and money and trust. Slice that middle, that history, heart, health and hope of Garden Grove, with a sharp knife and go, skip, skip, skip, and be wonderful!

    What a rabbit hole.
    A three path rabbit hole.
    House successfully divided.

    We were never racially divided until LULAC and MALDEF and their pal Shenkman decided we should be. Then again, Council should have put this up for vote by The People who have voted, and who do show up to vote. Quite a shame it wasn’t. Instead, factions, operatives, and resentments. The first cut is the deepest. It will take a long time to heal the betrayal.

  • Jane Rands

    I’m curious to know what happened at the GG Council Meeting.

    Fullerton City Council will be selecting a map on May 17. The only map the hired demographer David Ely discussed in any detail at the Public Hearing on April 19 was one In which historic downtown Fullerton is divided up so much that my 1924 home 2 blocks from Euclid is in the same district as CSUF on the east side of State College!

    I’m curious why the state standards that are intended to keep negiborhoodd together and not combine unlike neighborhoods isn’t being respected.

    I’m all for district elections and increasing minority voter participation. But I think it can be done in a way that reflects neighborhood indentity.

    • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

      Consultant Ely was very good about keeping neighborhoods together. In our city, his efforts for us were hijacked by political operatives.

  • Paul Lucas

    I dont know a whole lot about developing these maps for districts but when I looked at Kim Nguyens map it really looked to me that Latinos get thrown under the bus. Is anyone else seeing that or am I wrong or just a little wrong?

    • Silence Dogood

      No you are 100% wrong. Take a look at the numbers for district 5 and 6, Kim Nguyen’s map has the highest percentage numbers for eligible Latino voters. Apparently math was not your strong subject.

      • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

        District 5 and 6, and District 1, never changed in this process despite the community meetings and citizens’ input at those meetings. That is not the problem.

        The problem was that in all the district community meetings that were held none of the folks in the Kim faction came to contribute. They pop up like Jack in the Box people out of some secret box they were held in, hollering “Map 1” at the Council meetings. Were they paid?

        The Central Garden Grove land, voter grab, now affectionately (rolls eyes) called South Central because that is what it has become, completely dishonors our neighborhoods’ historical and relationship development which has east west meridians. It is an obvious attempt to secure an agenda. And saying that the Vietnamese and Latino joint venture is “historical” is pitting those two groups against the White folks and is a not very neighborly way of saying you stuck it to your Caucasian neighbors. Central GG neighbors shut up and shut down when for over 15 years they were the ones who helped the villages in “Latino” east GG on many occasions, as neighbors helping neighbors. Where were the Latino activist groups and leaders. Oh, that’s right … No.Where.To.Be.Found. Desaparecidos! And now they have the audacity to hurt our central neighbors who have always been there for the very unidos east side villages. Nervio tremendo.

        The lawsuit should have never happened. The decision should have been made by the voters during the upcoming elections.

        • Silence Dogood

          You are such an idiot. And it is impossible to argue with an idiot. Your only arguments resorted to making up lies(like they were paid) and claiming you “heard” things. No you didn’t hear things, you made things up. Your side and the Central GGNA were the racists, it was obvious in the comments and the speeches, which I went back and watched. You all couldn’t even agree on where your neighborhoods began and ended, it kept changing. You GGNA folks make me sick to my stomach. Why don’t you go burn a cross or something.

          • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

            You have proven the us versus them point. Perfectly. Read what you wrote.
            The paid person, know her.
            And you are dealing with someone with Mexican and Chinese blood, in district 6. So keep your burning crosses comment in your own front yard and out of all our neighborhoods. Andale, chapo! Apurate.

  • Josh McIntosh

    Regarding the statement “Supporters of this map believe that creating two competitive districts is more representative of the city’s racial diversity, while some Vietnamese American leaders have objected to the consolidation of Little Saigon into one district, arguing that it would pack Vietnamese voters into one district and reduce the number of council seats available to them.” This is silly. We have a majority of Vietnamese Councilmembers now, without having districts. The largest racial group in the city are people of Vietnamese heritage. They live in every proposed district. Little Saigon was the starting point 30 years ago, where they came together for shopping, dining, cultural events and such. It has expanded through conurbation and reached all of our neighborhoods. The Vietnamese residents vote. They not only vote but they run for office. Historically they have been leaning Republican and supporting right wing Viet candidates. However, there is a Democratic movement swelling amongst the younger generation and I believe that we are witnessing a strategic takeover for the Dems by way of extending districts to gain more territory. By the way, I love Bernie Sanders. I consider myself a Liberal Libertarian. I’m registered with the Green Party. However, this is not about a national party, this is about Garden Grove. A lot of us feel that GG has been reduced to a political stepping stone for candidates seeking higher office. I think that there are powers bigger than any neighborhood group of concerned residents, who regularly participate and work hard to keep our city accountable and moving in the right direction. My gut tells me there is something bigger behind this.

    • Silence Dogood

      Your gut is wrong.

  • Josh McIntosh

    Josh McIntosh I still believe that Kanzler’s map is the fairest of them all. It offers three mixed residential zones while also giving each major ethnic group a designated zone. I really wish we could keep the Main Street and Civic Center, the heart of the city, in one, central district. It is smack dab in the middle of the city. It’s also where I live. I am very concerned that there is an ominous force, yet to be revealed, behind the movement hoping to extend Little Saigon all the way up to Chapman Ave. This whole district election process was meant to give the East Side Grovers (Chicano majority) a seat at the table which has been dominated by Caucasian and Vietnamese politicians, with many beginning through appointments from the Planning Commission. Now it seems that that the main focus has been to increase the reach of Little Saigon’s politicians. As a 40 plus year resident and homeowner, I know where our different neighborhoods begin and end. As I have stated several times, look at the markets and restaurants if you want to know what area you’re in. Tonight’s City Council meeting will certainly be interesting.

    • BeeBee.BeeLeaves

      Land grab.