Here is another roundup of some of the most thought-provoking reader comments of the week. Comments are selected by our editors and subject to editing for grammar, spelling, clarity and length.
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Mayor’s Questionable Real Estate Deal
When is the Fair Political Practices Commission or the state attorney general’s office going to actually penalize this elected for blatant violations of the conflict of interest laws?
Miguel Pulido gets a pass every time. He’s been around so long and has friends all over the place, so nobody ever goes after him.
This is a very interesting and well-written piece. It is sad how these “deals” seem to pop up over and over. And what is even more disturbing is that despite excellent investigative journalism such as this, I suspect little will come of this.
Does it pass the smell test? Nope. Will anything be done about it? Probably not.
Who Pays the Price, the DA or Orange?
The Orange CIty Council, past or present, did not authorize or know about the details of how this gang injunction was handled. The city was pulled into the suit after the fact by the ACLU, and Orange’s taxpayers may now be on the hook for the county’s misstep.
As the article states the current Orange council — a majority were seated when this happened — now has to decide whether to try and seek reimbursement from the district attorney.
This specific injunction was handled differently then others. And again in response to comments laying blame anywhere but the DA’s office, the City Council was not made aware or provided any details until the law suit occurred. Lousy position to be put in.
One would imagine that if a police department was told by the DA’s office that something was legally OK, they would believe them. I think the Lake Forest video shows that soon after, cities started to get nervous about making that assumption.
— Carolyn Cavecche
Editor’s note: Carolyn Cavecche is a former mayor of Orange.
Carolyn, this dispute began in 2009. Again, I believe you when you say the council was not aware of the situation and Orange PD apparently believed DA assurances.
My opinion, for what it’s worth, is that the council should have known. This injunction covered almost 17 percent of the city’s area. Complaints about lack of due process as it relates to gang injunction inclusion were not new even then.
The DA bears responsibility, of course, but one has to conclude the Orange City Council bears some too. You can’t have it both ways. Sit down with the American Civil Liberties Union. I know that isn’t easy. Skirmishes with them go back to the day-laborer controversy in 2007 when you were mayor, I believe.
The Orange City Council, some of whom weren’t even in office when this started, need to settle and move on. There is no shame. These things happen.
Why is this even in question? It should be paid by whoever filed the suit, in this case the DA’s office. In the end, it’s still the taxpayers paying for it; we fund the DA.
However, by making the DA pay for it they will be hesitant in the future to violate the civil rights of individuals, and that’s a good thing for liberty.
— Paul Lucas
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