• Bill421

    Anything Larry Agran is involved has to be considered suspect because of his thieving past

  • Paris Merriam

    To learn more about Larry Agran, click on this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Agran

  • Roger Butow

    Perhaps as a Marine who served and was honorably discharged from MCAS El Toro I’d have a little say-so. But that’s NOT the extent to which I believe my opinion has merit in this discussion: My NGO, Clean Water Now, was asked by our home base Laguna Beach City Council if we could get engaged in the Great Park process, including the submission of my name as a potential initial GP board member candidate. We had helped ETERPA (anti-airport conversion), and were/would be effected by re-development there.
    My name was rejected, but as the roster sheets would show, I did attend numerous general meetings, one of only a few enviro-protectionists who did so, who tracked it. This was during a period when I was transitioning professionally from a general contractor to a land use and regulatory compliance consultant—which I am today, full time.
    More importantly, I was the ONLY NGO rep who sat in on the Hazardous Waste Disposal/Remediation sub-committee, chaired by then Lake Forest City Councilwoman Marcia Rudolph if memory serves.
    With an initial budget of close to $600 million from the DOD, it became rapidly clear that probably TWICE that much would be necessary for the CERCLA (Super Fund) site. Or more, as due diligence and discovery took place.
    Most important of all in this thread, in this discussion, is what I have repeatedly informed VoOC and OCR readers about: The 9 member GP Board, then when reduced for political manipulation purposes down to a 5 member consisting solely of Irvine City Council members, ALWAYS knew that the original cemetery site was going to be expensive to remediate.
    The large aquifer beneath the whole place is so contaminated with a vast array of heritage carcinogenic contaminates that pumping it out, going through IRWD’s advanced waste treatment system which started over 10 years ago, will take another 30 years to remediate.
    It’s a fact and matter of public record (Adam Elmarek was an VoOC reporter interviewing us then) that when myself and a working group of other Marines who served there confronted ICC about the heritage contaminants, Beth Krom’s comment was “What are we supposed to do, dig down 50 feet over the entire acreage, haul it all away to a hazardous waste land fill, put a fence around the whole thing and just let it just sit there as a crater?”
    The ENTIRE site was one of the biggest remediation challenges ever for a conversion.
    For Irvine or LENNAR’s spin-off lap dogs to suddenly say “Wow, we had no idea how polluted and how difficult, how expensive this would be” is a lie.
    It’s easier to fool people anew than convince them that have been fooled already.
    The City has cut NEPA/CEQA corners where it shouldn’t have, yet wasted hundreds of millions because basically, they’re rubes constantly seeking political advantage instead of looking in the mirror: They knew that regardless of where anything was being placed, the soil was contaminated. There’s no surprises here folks.
    They blew through the money that should have been used to remediate the original cemetery site….and exhibit no shame, no remorse or contrition.
    Now THERE’S a swamp that needs draining, and flip-flam con artists who deserve a prison cell.

    • Janis Noell Robbins

      Agreed

  • LFOldTimer

    Fantastic news! There should be a parade down Jamboree Road tomorrow in honor of Ed Pope and all those wonderful volunteers who turned the tables on those 3 pro-developer and anti-vet council members who broke the city’s promise to the vets by voting for the land-swap and shoving our fallen vets out into the strawberry fields next to the polluted freeways to benefit the bottom line of their developer buddies. I would be cheering and waving the American flag from the sidelines.

    Ed’s next project should be a petition to recall Melissa Fox. What a disgraceful display of behavior from an elected official who is supposed to embrace the democratic process – not sabotage it. The disruption and harassment of the the signature gatherers petitioning the arbitrary actions of the government was reprehensible. Countless vets shed their blood or even sacrificed their precious lives so we the people could overturn specious and unfair government mandates through the peaceful democratic process. Are the OC liberals proud of this woman who has taken sides with the rich developers over our local vets?

    Now let the people decide whether to restore a promise stolen from our vets in Nov.2018.

    Fox, Shea and Wagner, along with the developer and the foreign national home buyers can stuff it.

    • Janis Noell Robbins

      Agreed

  • Paris Merriam

    Agran is back at his old tricks; deceiving the Irvine voters and trying to squander more money. He squandered over $200 million on the Great Park when he was a city council member, and now he wants to squander another $100 million for the veteran’s cemetery. This Jew will stop at nothing.

    • @Dan Chmielewski

      Nice anti-Semitism Paris. Care to utter some anti-gay, anti-Asian and Ant-Latino references while you’re at it?

      • Paris Merriam

        No I wouldn’t, as your recommendations would be hurtful and considered a hate crime. Those ideas come from your sick, twisted, demented thinking and not mine. Wikipedia indicates Agran is a Jew, and therefore, that’s what I called him. Simply put, Agran is a Jew.

        • @Dan Chmielewski

          you used the term as a slur.

          • Paris Merriam

            No I didn’t. Once again, you are making false accusations. Get a life.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            Yeau, you did., It’s a slur Verifying through various Jewish houses of worship, You’re a bigot Paris. Bigot.

          • Paris Merriam

            I consider your comment a hate crime.

          • @Dan Chmielewski

            Your comment is…..was it necessary to say Larry was a Jew? You did it. You’re a bigot. You’re a racist. Let’s see what the Irvine rabbi’s say.

    • gaillewis13

      This is NOT about Agran. Agran has NOTHING to gain by opposing the swap. This is about 5PT that has a chance to gain about 1/2 BILLION in the value of the land. If the swap happens there will be about 10,000 more car rides on our streets. Do you really want to see this happen because you have some personal agenda with Agran. I cannot be clearer this is not about Agran. This is about the traffic in Irvine.

      • Paris Merriam

        Then contact the FBI.

      • Bill421

        Larry is noting but a criminal and should have been prosecuted .

  • gaillewis13

    You didn’t mention in your article on the Veteran’s Cemetery on why 5 PT wants a swap. If 5 PT gets it way there will be over 10,000 more car rides going thru our Irvine streets. The land they want to swap is worth about 1/2 BILLION more. The “three stooges” Shea, Wagner and Fox are in the pockets of the developer 5 PT. We must stop 5 PT!! And I would love to see a recall on Fox. She ran (and I voted for her) the issue of less traffic in Irvine and leaving the Cemetery in the Great Park. As soon as she got in office she cuddled up to 5 PT and changed her vote. Shame on Melissa Fox!!!!

    • Janis Noell Robbins

      So so agree!!!👍

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