• james keegan

    Like Westminster, Laguna has recently taken a bow for hiring a second outreach officer. Again, this was done without any discussion of the finding that “for those on receiving end , therapeutic policing feels less like helpful guidance and more like abuse.” Police, the answer to every social issue. [Down, Out & Under Arrest, Forrest Stuart, Univ. of Chi. Press (2016); reviewed Sunday, August 7, 2016 in L.A. Times at F1.]

    • westminster_guy

      Fair point. Even when they’re conducted by specially trained officers, I can’t imagine that these interactions are comparable to how a social worker would handle a given situation.

  • Bruce Durgess

    Hire police to do homeless outreach? Wrong skill set and they will be stuck with huge retirement costs forever!

    • westminster_guy

      I suspect that the argument is that for a police department as small and understaffed as WPD, it’s more cost-effective to hire officers that are specially trained to interact with the homeless (but can serve other functions as a regular police officer) than to hire dedicated staff.

      • LFOldTimer


        It was probably a payback to the police union for political donations.

        Hiring a cop to socially interact with the homeless would be like buying a pit bull to play with my cat.

        • westminster_guy

          lol, I get it. government bad. end of story.

          • LFOldTimer

            I assume by your moniker that you live in Westminster.

            If you think government is good …… I can’t help you. lol.

  • LFOldTimer

    I will never shop again in Westminster due to the higher sales tax – except to buy fish which is non-taxable.

    It’s just not an economically feasible option anymore.

    Households have budgets – just like governments. But we have to stay within ours. I can’t force people to turn over their money to me without being sent up the river. Governments play by a whole different set of rules. Governments are immune from consequences for robbery.

    • westminster_guy

      direct from the report: “As I am aware of the City’s financial position, I have proposed solutions that can be accomplished within the existing budget or without the need to use General Fund dollars. I have further designed these solutions to be six months in duration so that the Mayor and the City Council can evaluate their effectiveness and then decide if we want to continue them into the new fiscal year as part of our overall 2017/2018 Budget discussion”

      • LFOldTimer

        That’s a typical political answer, guy.

        I don’t believe in government reports anymore.

        I believe in outcomes and results.

        Westminster is a poorly managed city and I doubt you will ever dig your way out of the hole that your city government created for you.

        Remember when the California voters were told that the state tax a few years back under Schwarzenegger was only temporary? ha. Brown just extended it forever.

        Never believe what they tell you, guy. Don’t take the bait.

        • Liberalism is a cancer ✓ᵍᵉᶰᶦᵘˢ

          We are still paying for the early 1989 earthquake with the then temporary tax than turned permanent.

          • LFOldTimer

            Yes. Thanks for proving my point.

            Temporary taxes never go away.

            The road to h*ll was paved with good intentions.

            Never believe what government tells you.

          • Liberalism is a cancer ✓ᵍᵉᶰᶦᵘˢ

            The greed of gubbmit is never satisfied.