• CM in another city

    There are many professional administrators willing to take on a city like this. The unfortunate reality is that most good pros are unwilling to be puppets- given the political corruption in Westminster. You folks run through City Managers at a clip almost unheard of, with the City Attorney being the true power broker. The City is broken. My suggestion is to initiate term limits on electeds, return the responsibility of the administration to the City Manager with strong protections, and replace the City Attorney with a competent firm. City Councils make policy and don’t interfere with administration; otherwise corruption is inevitable.

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  • westminster_guy

    Disappointing, but sadly not surprising. While I hold out hope that Contreras is still redeemable, the rest should go, starting with Rice.

    I also agree with term limits and district voting. Each community needs to have the opportunity to elect their own representative on the council, and there should be no life-long members of the council.

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  • kburgoyne

    Interesting. Unfortunately at this point it has only lead to “trial by public”. Something which is not particularly known to be linked to solid accuracy and due-process. There is, however, plenty here that a proper due-process investigation performed by an independent third party investigator should definitely look into.

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  • David Zenger

    An octogenarian hairdresser and a janitor ran the city? Well, that sounds about right. Throw in some Third World fun and games and some fake medieval half-timbered facades and what do you have?

    Westminster.

    • ocseer

      Who would consider doing business in this primitive tribal village? In what way do the citizens of this sad little burg benefit from the endless corruption by most of the government and public servants employed there? It appears MOST of the votes for the current council were made based on cultural background, and not ability to carry out their respective duties under the Constitution of the United States of America. Here’s an idea: why not ask future candidates to recite some parts of the Constitution they swear to uphold and protect. If they can recite a few tenets of our country, fine! Vote for them! I sincerely doubt they will understand, let alone follow the very rules that they swore to uphold and protect. It seems only ignorant, greedy criminals run for office anymore. No one cares, not even most voters. God help us.

  • Diana carey

    Chief Baker served our City throughout his career with honor and integrity. The policies and procedures he instituted have made our police department is one of the finest in the County. Please take the time to read the compliant in its entirety. As a Councilwoman, a Chamber Member and the President of Kiwanis, I was present and witness to many of the allegations in the compliant. Had this gone to court, I was prepared to join the suit. On several occasions my words from closed session were quoted back to me by members of the public. The leaking of closed session discussions have had a detrimental effect on the outcome of legal issues, and have been very damaging to employee moral throughout the city. We have dedicated employees, and managers, who are devoted to serving our community and they should not be subject to toxic and undermining employment threats from city council members. I was the subject of lies and distortions about my years of service before and during my tenure on the council. I was prevented from accessing several Vietnamese media outlets during the campaign because of a threat of retaliation to withdraw advertising. This was heartbreaking personally, but is an illustration of the lengths they will to to to keep and obtain power. For the record, I never took any gifts, never asked for a favor for a campaign donor, and never intimidated anyone. It was an honor to serve all of the people, our City employees and our fine officers. I say proudly…I was the only clean shirt in the dirty laundry.

    • LoyalD

      Thank you for your service.

      • Diana carey

        Westminster should have term limits, voting by district, and a rotating mayor (similar to the FV system) Those changes would help to remediate the situation.

        • LFOldTimer

          Voting by district solves nothing. All it would do in Westminster is disenfranchise individual voters of 4 of their 5 votes – which is a nail in the coffin of the democratic process. That won’t help things. It’ll make matters even worse.

    • Henry Nguyen

      where is the FBI?I think Westminster people has the right to know and to see all the way to the bottom line of this matter-Gang up ? run city like Mafia, use most Vietnammes tax for wrong purpose,corruption , all Westminster officers MUST BE fired- all of them take advance Vietnamme have tradition DO NOT bother government official ,they don’t want to be revents …Please help to clean up …. The City used $500.000 dollars from tax payers paid for Mr. Baker to quiet, keep him mouth shut ! I wish Mr. Baker should not take the blood and sweat money from hard working of Westminster people — that not right
      Can you help to find the way to clean this pleas.Mr. FBI FBI FBI
      I used to live ( now I am living out state Cali),have the house,and paid property tax for this city.
      But I hate this City using the city resource for wrong purpose.
      I wish Westminster citizens stand up to fire them all from top to bottom -rebuild total new leadership for the city.HN

  • frustrated

    “All cops are criminals and violate the rights of the citizens while they are on duty”.

  • John Earl

    Great story! My compliments to the former chief for speaking out and the Voice for fighting against the city’s coverup.

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    • Henry Nguyen

      where is the FBI?I think Westminster people has the right to know and to see all the way to the bottom line of this matter-Gang up ? run city like Mafia, use most Vietnammes tax for wrong purpose,corruption , all Westminster officers MUST BE fired- all of them take advance Vietnamme have tradition DO NOT bother government official ,they don’t want to be revents …Please help to clean up …..Mr. FBI FBI FBI

      • verifiedsane

        The FBI/DOJ have their own heads buried in the sand with a top down corruption boondoggle…OC has systemic corruption permeating through the entire government & subordinate bodies…and unfortunately the only oversight organizations capable of addressing this ongoing and institutionalized government crime syndicate, are just as corrupt as those they are charged with investigating…we the people, are doomed

        • LFOldTimer

          There was a time when I had tremendous respect for the FBI. But the latest news on the politicized shakedown of Trump orchestrated by the top of the food chain at the FBI/DOJ is repulsive. Hillary’s campaign funded the fake dossier collected by a foreign spy (Steele) on Trump that was furnished by the Russians (to interfere with the presidential election) and then used by the politically corrupted FBI investigators to obtain FISA warrants on the Trump campaign. lol. That’s about as dirty as it gets. Yet they accuse Trump of colluding with the Russians? The Russians pulled a fast one on Hillary and the DNC by creating a fake dossier full of fictional BS and then taking millions of dollars in payment for it! ha.

          No wonder the FBI investigation of county government has produced zilch, zero, nada. There was enough criminal activity in the jailhouse snitch scandal to charge a dozen or more officials. But as I expected – justice at the top is a joke. The law only applies to the grunts of society. They’ve made a mockery of a beautiful system handed down to us by our Founding Fathers. We’ve gone completely third world. I really feel sorry of the kids of America. My generation has totally failed them. The sacred principles that made us the envy of the entire world have disappeared.

          • westminster_guy

            Were you complaining about the FBI when Comey gave his own October surprise regarding Weiner’s laptop and how it caused him to re-open the Clinton email investigation? I suspect not.

          • verifiedsane

            If Comey had followed the evidence and did his job…your queen Hillary would be beginning her prison sentence by now….instead we now know Comey was in the Democrats pocket, and was just trying to cover his own criminal as* with his fence walking gamesmanship…it quite obvious that your just another deep state liberal fool living in your own wacky alternative universe…

          • LFOldTimer

            Comey knew that he had to go through the motions to protect his but* in the event that the dirt leaked out later. And today the dirt is plentiful. The House Judiciary Committee now knows that laws were broken and false statements given in regards to the original FBI investigation of Hillary’s emails. The FBI cleared Hillary before interviewing witnesses or even the prime suspect, Hillary, and after changing the conclusion of their investigation from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” (the difference between criminal and non-criminal activity). And we know that the FBI appointed documented Trump-haters like Agent Strzok to key positions to bring Trump down. It was (is) nothing more than a political shakedown one would expect to see in a third-world snake pit run by jack-booted thugs. We know that the fake Trump dossier that the Hlllary funded foreign agent Steele obtained from the Russians was used as a mean to obtain FISA warrants to monitor Trump’s presidential campaign. We know about Uranium One and their Russian BoD operatives – awarding Bill Clinton $500,000 for a one-hour speaking engagement in Moscow after Hillary gave them 20% of the US uranium reserves. Have you noticed that Hillary has been very quiet lately? Gee, I wonder why? Trump wants Mueller to continue the investigation because the hole he digs just gets deeper and deeper. 98% of the time the truth eventually rises to the surface. The Mueller investigation will go down in history as one of the most, if not THE most, crooked and corrupted political investigations ever conducted by special prosecutor.

            Just curious. If you actually live in Westminster you should be livid at your corrupted government. You should agree with me and compliment me for speaking up for your residents. Why fight or argue with me? You should be spitting fire into the podium microphone at the city council meetings. Whose side are you on?

          • westminster_guy

            You two are hilarious. Robert Mueller and James Comey are two of the biggest boyscout Republicans to ever walk this Earth. At least they were thought of like that until they started investigating your idiot-in-chief hero.

            Indeed, the truth will come out. And fools who hitched their wagon to this petulant twitter addict will have to look at themselves very hard in the mirror. (but of course you won’t — you’ll just blame the messenger and continue to follow.)

            And Old-Timer — you really think you deserve praise? for what? posting 1000s of messages (mostly bullshit) on some obscure local news site? I’ll praise you for this – the time that you equated police officers to dog washers goes down as probably the stupidest argument I’ve ever seen someone make. So kudos for that.

          • LFOldTimer

            80% of the time I dispose of a liberal in an on-line debate in the 1st round. You’re no exception. Whenever a liberal fails to respond to the specific details of my argument it’s over. It’s like being unable to get off the stool for Round 2. A TKO. So I thank you for playing and for the easy victory.

            Btw, Mueller and Comey being Republican has nothing to do with it. Some of the most entrenched Deep Staters are lifelong Republicans. Fake conservatives. And as time marches on that should become more readily apparent to the uninformed like yourself.

            But keep watching CNN to build your wisdom. lol. The most corrupted name in news! lol.

          • JohnTheBaptist

            Total bullshit. Just like the schoolyard clown/

          • KenCoop

            I had tremendous respect for the FBI then and I do now. Your tin foil hat claims about the Clintons are just that. Derived from some idiot conspiracy theory.

            If they have done half of what idiots like you claim they have done, they are the greatest criminal masterminds of all time.

            Which I doubt, but I’m sure you do.

          • LFOldTimer

            Apparently you don’t believe in hard evidence or the findings of the House Judiciary Committee whose members have discovered there were laws broken and lies told during the FBI Hillary email investigation. There has been a call for a special prosecutor to revisit Hillary’s criminal acts that a 1st year law student at a one-star law school could clearly see. HINT: The difference between “extreme carelessness” and “gross negligence”. lol

            New investigations are being opened or reopened by the DOJ on the Clinton Foundation Fund, Uranium One, the fake Trump dossier funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign used as a legal tool to monitor the Trump presidential campaign and Hillary’s emails.

            There’s a REASON for opening new Clinton investigations or reopening old Clinton investigations. Either NEW evidence has surfaced or concealed evidence has now been exposed. Not hard to figure out.

            In fact, the DOJ Inspector General is scheduled to release his findings on the pre-election shenanigans later this month. And it won’t be fiction like you’ll find in Wolff’s fairy tales.

            My advice? Follow the real news and avoid the fake news. I suggest you boycott the fake news network, CNN. It brainwashes the mind with hype and disinformation. Same with MSNBC. Both will keep you in the dark as you appear to be today.

            I can point you to the door of light and truth – but you have to go there voluntarily and open it up. I can’t do that for you.

          • KenCoop

            Hahahaha……what do you consider to be “real” news?

            Let me know when you have a conviction. I’ll be right there with you screaming “lock them up.”

            I know your type is big on accusation being proof. It isn’t. Take a class in Civics. The concept of “innocent till proven guilty” is explained.

          • JohnTheBaptist

            Ridiculous. What news outlet do you suggest we listen to, Faux News? Breitbart? There is a reason why Trump is being investigated. It is way more than just collusion with the commies.

          • LFOldTimer

            You say “ridiculous” yet you FAIL to REBUT the FACTS that I wrote in my comment.

            Consequently, I eliminate your opinion from consideration. With no counterargument to challenge my assertions I assume you concur with the FACTS as presented, even if you disagree with them.

            Advice. If you disagree with a poster and reply to his/her comment – respond to the CONTENT. The bulk of my comment had to do with ongoing investigations of the Clintons. Not media outlet preference.

          • westminster_guy

            No, please tell us your sources for real news. I’m on pins and needles to find out who I can trust.

          • westminster_guy

            I’m responding to your CONTENT of “Follow the real news and avoid the fake news”

            Please inform us lowly peasants what you consider to be a REAL news source. And bonus points if you can do it without disparaging other outlets.

            I’m genuinely curious. Are you a Drudge guy, a Breitbart guy, a Townhall guy, an Inforwars guy, or a Daily Caller guy? Or all of them? None of them? Dark web truther?

            Your “fans” really want to know.

          • LFOldTimer

            I’m not your mentor. Go find your own truth-based news sources. I’m simply saying that the fake news you’ll find at the likes of CNN and MSNBC are mind-polluting propaganda infested snake pits. You might as well get your news from the North Korean Gazette. All their “expert panels” are exclusively stacked w/ Trump haters. lol. It’s laughable. And anyone who take the news at those sources seriously is laughable as well.

          • westminster_guy

            Again, a reminder of why it’s a waste of time to engage with you. Nothing.

          • JohnTheBaptist

            OH please. another distraction from the ongoing investigation into TRUMP’s dealings with RUSSIA.

  • LFOldTimer

    What a corrupted zoo. The townsfolk should storm city hall with torches and pitchforks. The rest of the county should boycott Westminster. Their government has turned completely third world. None can be trusted. The cops are dirty too. Remember Detective Anthony Orban?

    Some candidate for a Phd. should do a research paper and entitle his dissertation “Corruption in Government. Are Dirtbag Politicians Made or Born?”

    Another one of those age-old questions. Which came first? The chicken or the egg? My guess is the chicken.

    A great civics lesson discussion for the family dinner table.

    • Henry Nguyen

      where is the FBI?I think Westminster people has the right to know and to see all the way to the bottom line of this matter-Gang up ? run city like Mafia, use most Vietnammes tax for wrong purpose,corruption , all Westminster officers MUST BE fired- all of them take advance Vietnamme have tradition DO NOT bother government official ,they don’t want to be revents …Please help to clean up …. The City used $500.000 dollars from tax payers paid for Mr. Baker to quiet, keep him mouth shut ! I wish Mr. Baker should not take the blood and sweat money from hard working of Westminster people — that not right
      .Mr. FBI FBI FBI

  • verifiedsane

    “Corruption runs rampant in the city of Westminster” and just about every other city and OC governmental body. This is nothing new, or will it end anytime in the near future….the corruption and cronyism has become so institutionalized and entrenched; it unfortunately appears that most citizen’s in OC have grown to be accepting, and become self imposed ignorant apathetic partners in the crimes. we reap what we sow….maybe at some juncture the people will grow weary of unrepresentative government, the top down & self serving ruling oligarchy, and stage a revolt….either at the ballot box or by other means….I’ve been watching and experiencing this happen for far to long to hold out much hope…but then one never knows….unpredictable anomalies and pleasant surprises do happen every so often!

  • John Claxton

    All this corruption stems from allowing council members to serve more than two terms. They get comfortable at corruption! The public turns a blind eye. Margie Rice and Dicck Jones are the poster children of political corruption. I’m very surprised no one filed a complaint with the state bar against Jones trying to pry a state retirement out of being a contracted employee.

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