• dust2dust

    The effort exerted by the various veterans groups to establish a cemetery in Orange County is commendable and much appreciated. Unfortunately, the land swap proposed by the developer is not in the best interests of veterans or their families. Burials next to a large, noisy freeway and close to another one are disrespectful. Cemeteries are intended to be peaceful places for contemplation and reflection. A place were the newly bereaved can find solace; a place of dignity. As a veteran, I will choose to be buried at an appropriate location away from freeway noise and pollution.

    Cemeteries are peaceful places for contemplation and reflection

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  • Willy Jardine

    “One side favored the original site because — as many veterans said throughout the months — it was the last place many Americans stood on U.S. soil before being sent off to World War II, Korea
    or Vietnam.”

    That quotation originated with me and is applicable to all of MCAS El Toro, it has been repeated
    often. But I have not heard it used exclusively to ‘favor the original site’.

    Why the original ARDA site is favored by Pope’s group (his deceptive referendum condemned by resolution of both the Democratic and Republican parties of OC) remains unexplained.

    1. There is nothing about ARDA that is revered, esteemed, or anointed. It served as a legislative placeholder until a better qualified alternative became apparent.
    2. ARDA site is vociferously opposed by the predominantly Chinese neighbors.
    3. It is opposed by the administration of the nearby expensive high school
    4. It contains a capped toxic dump site and several monitored wells
    5. The FAA operates a large ugly and immovable antenna array on ARDA
    6. It is prohibitively expensive and likely contains contaminate surprises.
    7. It is not, never was in ‘The Great Park’. A Veterans Cemetery does not appear on any map.
    8. It was not ‘approved’ by the FDVA, CalVet or the City of Irvine.

    ‘savetheveteranscemetery.org’, among their many false claims, states “We were ready to break ground”. What entity is the ‘we’ in this statement? This will be a CalVet constructed and administered cemetery, as you can see on the City Of Irvine information page the city is only now prepared to
    transfer the strawberry fields property to the State of California. As there was no previous action by the city to make the ARDA land transfer, there could not be any ‘ready to break ground’ by CalVet.

    And then there is Cadence Blvd., a paved road that bisects the ARDA, completed and in place
    several years ago. This will carry high volume high school traffic across the possible cemetery site. As the VA will be funding the cemetery via their state cemetery grants program, the cemetery must be built to meet VA design standards, and while there are some exceptions in older cemeteries, Cadence Blvd thru traffic will not be permitted. Thus ARDA is disqualified as a Veterans cemetery site.

    No ARDA land transfer, Cadence Blvd., no funding, refusal to consider the Strawberry Fields
    in 2016, all events told us Veterans that ARDA is the never-never land for a Veterans Cemetery and the plan was to slow-walk and then terminate the cemetery effort with an apologetic “gosh guys, we tried” of crocodile tears.

    So then …why does Pope and his Lakeview Senior Center gang really want the ARDA site? We
    deserve to hear!

  • LFOldTimer

    Hat tip to Ed Pope and his crew for overcoming great odds by collecting over 12,000 valid signatures in a short time frame to take the vet cemetery vote to the people. Particularly in the face of all the obstructionists you had to work around at the collection sites. You folks are loyal friends to our veterans. Irvine should be forced to honor their original promise to put the cemetery at the ARDA location. if living in the vicinity of a vet cemetery offends the rich foreign nationals – we don’t need their money. Many Americans would jump at the chance to have such a distinct honor. And 5Point is just going to have to understand that our vet’s honor comes before their profits. Time for Wagner, Fox and Shea to do the right thing and cancel the land swap. Otherwise they’ll face the wrath of the voters at reelection time.